Setting - Tripping Indoors or Outdoors?

[alexm23]

im new to shrooms and have a question. in your opinion which setting would have the most advantages...in your house or in a forrest. i mean i think id have a better time outdoors but again theres that risk of bad tripping outside. and being indoors is kind of boring for me. is shrooms the kind of drug where its affects are amplified if your close to nature and such?

[Petethemeat]

When SWIM tripped the setting made a great deal of difference. He found a nice spot in a park with some friends and got to work. Parks are, at least for SWIM the ideal spot for shrooming. What is naturally pretty anyway becomes stunning and you are left alone to trip and have fun. SWIM also finds that while on mushrooms 'natural' things seem to be the best and he seems to have the most affinity for..

[augentier]

My cat prefers to be outdoors as well after eating shrooms. When stuck inside tripping, nothing is beautiful or interesting...at least for Toonces, and the only thing she can think of to make the trip go smoother is to head outside.

[Colours]

Ya I'd agree with the two previous posts, though for me personally, public nature settings don't really do it for me...agoraphobic you see. I like fields, hilltops or lakeside.

[doppey]

Have any other SWIMS been completely headfucked and disgusted when tripping while walking down a residential street with lawns and trimmed bushes etc? It seems to take on a very "unnatural" feeling and this deeply upsets SWIM for some reason (Sober he likes the look of a well kept residential neighbourhood.)

[k-explorer]

SWIM used to walk around the forest on shrooms, and that was magical. The connection you can feel to nature is mind-blowing. Those were special days.

Now SWIM tends to eat shrooms in Amsterdam and stay inside his hotel room. It's a different kind of trip there but magical in its own way.

[Colours]

If you work long enough in the bush, it gets hard to accept the established order. Even coming out of the woods for a weekend or to do laundry in a tiny village can really fuck with you. It's also nice not being able to hear anything, no buzzing, no car revs, and no loud industrial park booms. Don't need shrooms to appreciate it

[Shampoo]

Huxley spoke frequently of the Antipodes of the mind, and it's manifestations in nature, creating a more substantial correlation between the two than "well shrooms are nature man..." The geometric patterns present in natural growth such as vein growth, vegetative expansion, and insect populations are similar to the entoptic phenomena referred to by medical practitioners, as opposed to the one defined by archaeologists. Entoptic medical phenomena are the result of light fragmentation within eye, resulting in a common red tint, due to the lights refraction through blood. After reflecting off of the fovea, light can be trapped by reflecting off of the inside of the retina, further reflecting through and in blood vessels, creating a final fragmentation of light riddled with complex patterns, and residing only within the eye. These patterns are noted are impacting CEVs as well as open-eye hallucinations. As many hallucinations are an altering of perception rather than a creation of one, entoptic phenomena are in a category of "true hallucinations", in which the physical manifestation of something seen resides within the viewer. The patterns commonly described in entoptic phenomena outline those of nature with an uncanny similarity, leading many, including Huxley, Leary, and McKenna, to refer to these phenomena as universal phenomenon of existence, not human experience in the here and now. They proposed that in this state, the participant is a mere observer of the phenomena of nature, and the order of existence. Present both within ourselves, our eyes, and the systematic explosion of natural order, these phenomena may in fact transcend ideas of being.

The dissociation with order is a phenomena all its own, as order above chaos are no more prevalent in society than in nature. Theoretically, because a single system is controlling the ebb and flow of plant life, it remains far more orderly than society, which has an infinite amount of controllable factors and variables at the hands of billions of human beings. No where is order more significant and precious than in nature, and though so commonly this creates a disconnect between the order of society and the acceptable "disorder" of a forest strewn wildly with foliage, the patterns within nature can be fascinating as a precursor to the order of man. Structure within society has its roots (literally) deep within the structures inherent in nature, possibly resulting in a fascinating experience inherent in the mental dissection of the natural order of things.

No one can summarize these ideas better, in a single paragraph, than the big man himself, Aldous Huxley.
"Systematic reasoning is something we could not, as a species or as individuals, possibly do without. But neither, if we are to remain sane, can we possibly do without direct perception, the more unsystematic the better, of the inner and outer worlds into which we have been born. This given reality is an infinite which passes all understanding and yet admits of being directly and in some sort totally apprehended. It is a transcendence belonging to another order than the human, and yet it may be present to us as a felt immanence, and experience participation.... Our goal is to discover that we have always been where we ought to be."

So to actually answer the original question. SWIM prefers experiences indoor, outdoor, and in sensory-depravation. If SWIY has the opportunity, try them all, but perhaps the outdoors, with the magical sense of awe and wonder associated with the glint of wet leaves, would be most conducive to a smiling explorer.

Be safe!

[spores101]

The Forest absolutely!

Being stuck indoors and tripping sucks hard balls.

[Lethargy]

My psychedelic voyager friend used them indoors the first time, but he also would always use substances alone the first time and in a controlled setting where he could retreat to a dark room with a comfy bed and calm music. His subsequent experiences say that he enjoys outdoors better and especially when with other people the combined "energy" seems to chafe at staying inside and contained.

He would recommend a place with little to no other people though, national parks or lakes or such, around here. Anyplace with enough space to wander around without encountering sober folk.

[HpVampiress]

SWIM thinks that the most moving experiences with mushrooms happens outdoors...Outside just seems so endless and infinite. Not to mention that SWIM feels very safe and protected in a forest. However, SWIM also feels that having a nice cozy place to go to if things get too intense is helpful as well.

[TMM]

Originally Posted by alexm23

is shrooms the kind of drug where its affects are amplified if your close to nature and such?

If one's mind is so inclined, then yes. If not, then no. Go to wherever SWIY feels like going. To SWIM the physical surroundings aren't really that important, as long as he can safely ignore them.

[podge]

Swim thinks tripping outdoors is infinitley better than tripping in a house. Its good to have an indoor location to fall back on if things go bad but if swiy is experienced then that shouldnt be too big an issue.