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Old 04-10-2007, 20:57
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Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

I wanted to talk to other SWIMS who are heavy weed smokers. Are there any issues you have had to deal with, health wise or mentally? My swim would like me to start it off. Any other SWIM can join in and talk about it too...

Swim was once adamantly opposed to smoking weed. This was from 14 years of DARE indoctrination and the continual belief that weed would ruin your brain cells, start cancer, give you diseases, and make you a bad person. Upon the graduation of high school, SWIM had his first joint, and laughed about how stupid the last 18 years of his life have been with regards to his thoughts on that drug. SWIM is a very scientifically minded person, so he begun to do his own research, and found that he was not only wrong about marijuana, but about many other drugs. He decided to begin taking up weed smoking, although he would never touch cigarettes and rarely touch alcohol.

Most of his life, though, he still only smoked once a month, maybe twice a month. He never really felt the urge to smoke more than that, and he enjoyed it every single time. He experimented with LSD, Salvia, modafinil, vicodin, and other drugs that he had discovered were not "The Devil." It was a journey of discovery for him, but still, he did not partake in drug use every day.

As of late, marijuana smoking has been inseparable from his identity. It all came all of a sudden, really, he found a group of people that reminds him of a commune, or even a family. He's now smoking every day, at least 3 times a day. He is always somewhat stoned, and has been for at least a month. He gets better sleep than he ever got, he doesnt get bothered by his wifes angry tantrums anymore, he feels much more sociable, and is even doing well in school, not as stressed out over things. He smokes about a half ounce a day between 8 people. He's unbelievably happy with these guys.

However, not everything has been peaches and cream for Swim. Though he does not really count this as a negative or a positive, his interest in drugs has peaked, and his desire to experience drugs and expand his mind is very strong. He'll search far and wide for rarer drugs or good quality drugs. He's been getting more sore throats lately, and feels a little less motivated than he normally is. He worries about long term health effects of such heavy, HEAVY smoking. He also worries about how he is pushing away his wife and older, non-smoking friends in favor of his very intelligent, very kind new smoking friends. The last worry is the money, it is quite expensive to smoke so much.

Can anyone else relate? Can someone who has perhaps been doing this for much longer than swim has tell me about their experiences? SWIM has only been doing this for a month, but I can see SWIM smoking at least daily for a very long time now.

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Old 04-10-2007, 22:40
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Yea SWIM smokes daily, 3 times at work (breakfast, lunch, drive home). Then once home SWIM will smoke 2-4 blunts usually. SWIM thinks that a vaporizer would be a wise choice to avoid the smoke, to be honest any smoke SWIM smokes daily has to be somewhat degrading to the bodies health
and performance. SWIM likes to smoke everyday, relives stress and makes for good motivator in SWIMs humble opinon. Costly it is though, buy in larger amounts or cultivate yourself :/ selling done right keeps cashflow in your pocket and a fat bag on hand > ....risky if you ask SWIM
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Old 05-10-2007, 00:06
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Swim always gets worried about selling. He has the financial means to start, but lives in an appartment complex where the land lord can freely enter every apartment if he so choses. Swim is also in college, and one drug offense would pretty much ruin his life.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Don't sell drugs. The risk and consequences make it not worth it. If you want weed, buy quantity or grow your own. Of course, don't do that either - after all it is illegal...
Smoking all the time, in SWIM's opinion, is only a problem if it interferes with life, finances, etc. It surely is some kind of health risk as well though what kind remains to be seen as chronic potheads get older. If SWIY can function, work, get good grades, deal with other people and stay motivated, SWIM does not know what the problem is...
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

If you are worried about the loss of mental agility and de-motivation some anecdotal reports (as well as limited scientific evidence) suggests that Melatonin taken regularly (3mgs+ a day, one hour before bed) can help alleviate these symptoms. Regular and heavy cannabis use can leave people feeling strained, spacey and inattentive, if this happens then you have to learn to put down the joint and give it a rest for a month. I would contend that the main reason for Marijuana Dependence is that people don't believe it is addictive - but try saying "OK, I'm not going to smoke for a week" and stick to it and you will find it a little harder than you might expect.
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Old 08-10-2007, 16:19
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Swim has been smoking every day for about a dozen years, and a few times per week or so for some years before this. There have been times that Swim hasnt smoked it, during 2 pregnancies and last year had to stop for 5 days due to being in the hospital.

I dont know if any of Swim's health problems have been because of smoking pot, but its possible that it caused some, or perhaps exacerbated things some.

Swim has some mental issues, and has since before ever thinking about smoking pot. Swim has bi-polar disorder , ADHD and extreme anxiety issues, and was in therapy years before smoking. Since smoking, Swim has been diagnosed with Hidradenitis Suppurativa, Fibromyalgia, Cancer and has lots of lymphodema problems because of the cancer mess. The cancer is gone at the moment, yay!

When Swim was younger, and started smoking pot, she did it to party with her friends. Later, when Swim started to have some marriage/family problems, she smoked it to keep herself out of depression so deep that it caused daily suicidal thoughts. Swim thinks that smoking saved her life, keeping her head above the water while she worked through the depression and other strong emotions.

Swim has been smoking as a medication for several years now. The pot helps Swim to deal with the pain issues that the health problems give her. It also helps swim keep her mind focused, enabling her to concentrate enough to work. Swim also has agoraphobia, and only leaves the house when she has to go to the doctor or a big family deal, like special holidays, so Swim works online, from home.

Swim is married, and her husband does not smoke. Swim's children do not know that she smokes.

Swim uses a small pipe that looks like a cigarette. This method produces less smoke in the air, cutting down significantly on the smell, and also makes it more economical. Swim smokes throughout the day, all awake hours, unless people are around. She only smokes in front of her husband, and no one else. She buys in bulk, and smokes about 1 1/2 to 2 ounces each month.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

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Swim has been smoking every day for about a dozen years, and a few times per week or so for some years before this. There have been times that Swim hasnt smoked it, during 2 pregnancies and last year had to stop for 5 days due to being in the hospital.

I dont know if any of Swim's health problems have been because of smoking pot, but its possible that it caused some, or perhaps exacerbated things some.

Swim has some mental issues, and has since before ever thinking about smoking pot. Swim has bi-polar disorder , ADHD and extreme anxiety issues, and was in therapy years before smoking. Since smoking, Swim has been diagnosed with Hidradenitis Suppurativa, Fibromyalgia, Cancer and has lots of lymphodema problems because of the cancer mess. The cancer is gone at the moment, yay!

When Swim was younger, and started smoking pot, she did it to party with her friends. Later, when Swim started to have some marriage/family problems, she smoked it to keep herself out of depression so deep that it caused daily suicidal thoughts. Swim thinks that smoking saved her life, keeping her head above the water while she worked through the depression and other strong emotions.

Swim has been smoking as a medication for several years now. The pot helps Swim to deal with the pain issues that the health problems give her. It also helps swim keep her mind focused, enabling her to concentrate enough to work. Swim also has agoraphobia, and only leaves the house when she has to go to the doctor or a big family deal, like special holidays, so Swim works online, from home.

Swim is married, and her husband does not smoke. Swim's children do not know that she smokes.

Swim uses a small pipe that looks like a cigarette. This method produces less smoke in the air, cutting down significantly on the smell, and also makes it more economical. Swim smokes throughout the day, all awake hours, unless people are around. She only smokes in front of her husband, and no one else. She buys in bulk, and smokes about 1 1/2 to 2 ounces each month.
yeah smoking marijuana has basically helped out swims depression sooo much its not even funny, swim used to only smoke every onve in awhile then he had to stop for the longest time, he then got in a car wreck which later made him severly depressed for a long time, then recently he started moking agian everyday and the depression is gone, and the meds the doctor gave him did nothing but make him feel worse
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

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I would contend that the main reason for Marijuana Dependence is that people don't believe it is addictive - but try saying "OK, I'm not going to smoke for a week" and stick to it and you will find it a little harder than you might expect.
So true; swim stopped for three months but it took her several attempts to actually do it. Swim never got to the point of daily use, but at one point she was smoking 3 - 5 times a week, and when she first tried to stop it was definitely a challenge. Once swiy gets going it becomes much easier, and hanging out with swim's friends was still a lot of fun, even when everyone else was smoking and she wasn't. It's very interesting to be out of the loop; swiy can just sit back and enjoy watching everyone else being stoned and dumb.

The only major downside that swim encountered when she was smoking more often was being too preoccupied with it. Like, worrying about getting weed on a constant basis or counting down the minutes until swim could smoke up. Being casual about use is much better. One of swim's friends recently mentioned that he can actually see her eyes now too, haha.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

one thing swim experienced was the fact that his friends were only friends when the herb was around... there was just a monotonous smile put on every one's face till the party was done. Swim has completly stopped using cannabis for the most part and has found his life much better.

but to each his/her own
it seems like there are many people who benefit from heavy use

lol i guess they are just luckier than swim
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

swia been a daily smoker for probly more then 7 odd years of various strains and concentrations. she seems ok, her mental state was never there to begin with but she has never got worse or better just seems to help her eat more. which she considers healthy considering she hardly ever eats when she sober.

She also likes to meditate with it too a great deal of time.. helps her mind flow sometimes more easily and for her blocks out the pesky darkness.
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Old 08-10-2007, 18:55
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

SWIM thinks its good to get this dialogue going. Experience from multiple people who smoke multiple, but heavy, ammounts can bve good for those who want to match their intake with others and determine possible effects. Of course, each substance reacts differently to each persons body, so annecdotes are still annecdotes, but SWIM believes that daily, heavy use of cannabis can bennefits and detriments to each person. SWIM's mental acuity has lessened slightly, which is a shame, because it is a part of him that he values dearly, but he thinks what he has lost in sharpness, he has gained in depth.

Health problems, he gets sore throats a little more often, and some illnesses take a little longer than normal to resolve, but thats about it. He'd guess that this is mostly due to his increased alcohol intake lately (he gets wasted about once a week now, but he definitely needs to cool down on that, and he plans to).
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

swim is by far an advocate for responsible use of cannabis. But swim also believes that there is a down-side to any drug..

swim was a prevalent user of cannabis while still in high school and it really really messed with swim's study habits and ambition. Swim became a phenomenal guitar player and it opened up a few doors it the old brain-case. Now swim only smokes on special occasions when it is around and the mood is right and it has not only phenomenally enhanced the experience involved in it's use but it but my mind and body are never burdened with the heaviness THC and smoking tend to bring to ones body

But swim believes in moderation now. as Fubai said above it can be addicting... not necessarily the chemicals involved with it, but more the lifestyle and the habit, even the feeling of smoke can bring to the lungs. Swim knows from personal experience that dropping the habit is much more difficult than one is lead to think.

Swim believes that everything is meant to be experimented with but believes that every day use provides a personal escape from dealing with problems sober.

cannabis truly can be a tool to explore the mind and alleviate the body but like anything it can be abused.

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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

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I think if you have the inner motivation and a strong mentality, you can do anything no matter how much weed you smoke. I've known heavy weed smokers who have been straight A students and all around high achievers, as well as weed smokers that would be lucky to keep a job for more than a month. If you want to do well and smoke weed, you will. If you want to laze around all day and believe people when they call you a "stupid pot head," you will. Not to say it doesn't impair your memory a bit and blacken your lungs though.

When I first started smoking weed at the age of 13 I was already un-motivated and doing poorly in school. I continued to do so up to the age of 14. I realized then, I needed to either quit drugs and turn my life around, or stop being irresponsible with drugs and turn my life around. I decided to attempt the latter and it worked. At the time I had already failed that year of school and couldn't change things. Next year came around and I pulled my marks up to an 80% average and kept it that way. A few years later, I now have a good job and keep my bills paid. I still smoke weed just about everyday and take other drugs when I have the time. So, the moral of the story is, that you can do anything you put your mind to.

Swirealitybias, I understand very much your need to expand your mind. I've felt that way for a very long time. Nothing to be afraid of, just don't let yourself slip down the wrong path. I find discipline is the key to a healthy relationship with drugs. If you find yourself on drugs in a situation or a place where you know it would be wiser not to be on drugs, maybe it's time to re-evaluate your relationship with drugs. Doesn't even necessarily mean you should quit, though it might.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

For the firecat 's opinion, he meows at me that everything must be limited to some point.

Even Oxygen, taken too much can kill one.

The firecat trusts in moderation. he said.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

SWIM smokes weed almost every day. It can mess with his short term memory a little but he takes Piracetam daily just for countering that effect, and that is going surprisingly well

The only thing that SWIM doesn't like about his daily weed habit is that he is gaining a little weight. Everything is eatable as long as he smoke enough.
Apart from those two problems SWIM inst getting any more negative effects.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

SWIM very much agrees with samadi123's opinion, SWIM has been now smoking usually every day for the last year and a half, quite heavily, about a 1/4-1/2 a week between 3 people, varying in quantity and quality quite vastly. SWIM has noticed some lack of memory (and possibly motivation) since he started, but believes he is much more of an open-minded, deep person since. SWIM is going to stop smoking for a month or so very soon, to see if he noticed any real differences.

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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

geat news kblsd ! glag mj helped you.
swim has been smoking smoking since he was 14 everyday ! and he has noticed he feels alot more tired throughout the day and has some memory loss and cares alot less about things that have no meaning to him.
ive noticed i have alot more phlegm than i would like. and i find that its hard to find a girl friend when you smoke weed ! all the attractive ladies like liveley bubly men and weed certainly doesnt make me live and bubbly it makes my eyes read and makes me want to chill out and sleep lol
anway im gonna stop for a a month soon and see how i feel ! i hope its effects arent forever !
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feels alot more tired throughout the day and has some memory loss and cares alot less about things that have no meaning to him.

it makes my eyes read and makes me want to chill out and sleep lol
anway im gonna stop for a a month soon and see how i feel ! i hope its effects arent forever !
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Swim has a few smokes and thats it, nothing to say, no train of thought. Likes listening, cant add to the topic. (assuming this is part of the short term memory numbing caused by smoking)

Swim also started to find everyday things boooring. Not so much attention span, more the fact swim just cannot be arsed to spend time on something. When swims stoned he can mull something over for ages. When swims flat sober everyday tasks get a quick once over and almost instantly get boring.


Def dont smoke for a month and see the difference. Swim personally sleeps poorly when stoned, no dreams. Swim thinks thisis connected the the memory thing, swims brain just stays stoned and lazy while he sleeps rather than ordering and tidying his memorys into relevent places. If swim smokes in the day and sobers before bed he always feels fine the next day, its the going to bed stoned that screws swim up.

When swims not been smoking and sleeping properlly his head is 50x times better. Thoughs pour and memorys stay. 5-HTP helped swim sort his sleeping patern, might help other swims too.

Just to contex, swims been smoking since about 16. Not heavy to begin with but over the past year has smoked around an ounce and a half a month. dunno if thats alot or not.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Swim has smoke daily, many times a day usually, for almost 20 years, and in swim's opinion has not had any ill affects as far as swim know's. (Swim's friends may say differently). I was going to say something else but now I forgot what that was. Just kidding.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

SWIM smokes daily and after years of using ecstasy, SWIM had to stop because of severe anxiety and depression. SWIM thinks that his serotonin must have depleted because SWIM gets bad anxiety and depression now, but after going on an Anti-depressant, SWIM has been smoking regularly again and feels great, SWIM's favorite activity is working out while smoking the sacred herb. SWIM tends to only smoke at night or the afternoons tho
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Do keep in mind that the more intense and vivid dreams in the period after smoking is considered part of the withdrawal and not the normal sleeping pattern of a non-user. Some would consider sleeping stoned or non-use sleep to be more comfortable than that in-between withdrawal sleep.

SWIM believes sleep is a fairly inconsistent thing in itself. He usually sleeps fine but occasionally might have a restless night. This might be for any reason; a draughty room, being over-heated, ate too much before bed, common cold etc.
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Smurf has experienced great health in the sense he has not been truly sick in years.

Not sure if it's the Marijuana, but he does know it has cleared up his extreme migraine headaches he used to get.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:30
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

SWIM has gone through many periods of being high litterally all the time. Eating brownies throughout the day, and smoking throughout too, every half hour or so. It starts to become a sobriety for SWIM that he enjoys much more. He is much less anxious, much happier, and much more base-line. SWIM is bipolar, has anxiety, among other things, so this may be why it helps him feel "base-line", but he is sure this is probably how others would feel as well. Sort of calmed in life, all is good, positive. If SWIyou can't afford it though, taking a break and saving up for an amount would be better than buying small amounts. Or maybe SWIY could grow....but that is more risky. BTW Swim benifits from lots of the "negative" side effects from cannabis such as no dreams, so his views may be askwed.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:02
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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

Swim was quite a heavy weed smoker for 3 years. There were a couple of things swim can say in retrospective now:
  1. He was more passive then he is now. Not lazy, school went great, he just was a bit more relaxed and less concerned about things.
  2. His sleeping pattern became distorted at some point because he woke up to smoke some weed in the middle of the night to sleep further.
  3. The last year, he really was developing some asthmatic symptoms after smoking a weed.
  4. Paranoia. He is always a bit paranoia, but this started to get serious. He was paranoia about his health and sometimes thought people were following him or talking about him. Or that he was going crazy. It became worse and worse.
  5. Short term memory was remarkably intact.
  6. Money problems, at some point he was smoking around the 1.5 gram of high quality hash a day.
The amount of weed smoked was in the first year maybe 0.3 gram a day. The next around the 1 gram a day and the third year around the 1.5 gram a day. These are approximates. In the weekend more was smoked and trough the week less. He needed to smoke in the morning, right next after coming out of university and then till sleep. In the third year he needed to smoke some in the middle of the night.

He stopped at the third year in one day, because he started sporting again and he had to chose between sport or weed. Those asthmatic symptoms and the paranoia helped him too deciding. He was awake for a day or two and really pumped up with some kind of aggressive energy. It was not really easy to say at least, but it was manageable.

Benefits from stopping are:
  1. Swim now has lots of energy.
  2. The asthmatic symptoms left, when he stopped. However he still gets a negative reaction, when smoking. He probably is allergic or something.
  3. Clear feeling in the head. He was used to have a dull feeling in his head all day.
  4. His condition is back up the state it was before starting to use weed. -Swim used to sport a lot-
  5. He has a stronger character now. Less passive. Is more independent somehow. He is the type of person, who enjoys that.
Negatives are:
  1. University becomes more boring in some way.
  2. He still has some sleep problems, which he had before he started using weed.
  3. He has become more impulsive. Less passive. -The downside of the less passive thing-
During stopping swim started to drink more as replacement for his high. He stopped this at some point. Swim still enjoy drugs, but doesn't enjoy cannabis anymore. He tried a little while ago, but just got sleepy and the strange allergic thing again.

Swim smoke weed, because it helped him sleeping. He hasn't found a replacement for that now. Sometimes GBL, but he can't take that everyday.
One of the funny things of his cannabis period was, he could eat enormous amounts of food without becoming fat. He shouldn't try that now.

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Re: Daily, Heavy Use Of Cannabis

If you're concerned about lung problems when smoking cannabis, why not vaporize? There's really no excuse not to anymore.
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