Mescaline or LSD ?

[motaburn]

Hi

SWIM bought what it was called "red stars" (it was very very little hard red thing with a star shape) , the guy said it was mescaline. SWIM took it for is first psychedelic trip. half a dose. SWIM said it was fantastic at every moments, except when the thing went "up" . The trip lasts 12 hours.

BUT several persons said to SWIM it was not mescaline but LSD... SWIM would like to know if you ever heard of these red stars ?

sorry if i'm not on the right forum but it's the only part with mescaline title, and sorry for my bad english

[JDreaming]

Hi motaburn! Microdots that are supposed to be mescaline generally aren't... real mescaline would require at least 100mg of material to have any significant effect. A real mescaline pill would have had to be quite large. What SWIY took was probably either LSD or a DOx (substituted amphetamine psychedelics used sometimes as acid replacements by unscrupulous dealers... the kind who would call an acidlike drug "mescaline"). I do not know for certain, though, exactly what these "red stars" were.

Reputation Comments on this post:

great information on mescaline

[Perception Addict]

Duration was pretty short for mescaline too, though this would be true of some of the DOx's too. Could have been LSD, but maybe could also have been one of the 2-Cx's.

Perhaps some further details on the experience would help id the drug.

[Samadhi]

2C-T-7 has been known to be pressed into red star microdots. Watch what you purchase and please know your stuff...

don't die!

[motaburn]

thanks for your answers.

now i remember someone telling swim it was DOB, but never heard about that.

the effects : colours oriented, sometimes cartoon like vision, water feeling like rainbow in the mouth. feeling like a lizard.
not tired, during and after. very smily and happy. a big mouth-hurt after.
colours were fantastic and music like marschmallow.
people looking like bad-tripping green monsters but swim was smiling...

[JDreaming]

Ah, so you think it may have been our interesting friend Dr. Bob once again. The only problem with the DOB hypothesis is it would be rather unusual for any dose of that compound to last a mere 12 hours. Eighteen hours is usually considered the minimum length for even a low active dosage of DOB. Perhaps it was a DOB microdose, like 0.5mg? Were the effects of the trip comparatively light and subtle, or were they intense?

[motaburn]

well, knowing that swim did not take the entire thing, effects last for 18-20 hours... but the last 4-6 hours were more cool stoned-like but quite tiring.

In the great on line encyclopedia, the article of 2C-T-7 shows the exact picture of the thing.

[Nagognog2]

Unless one personaly knows the source - who must be a very good chemist with access to heavily watched chemicals - the chances of aquiring real mescaline is nil. Extractions from natural entities, like San Pedro, are doable. But the product is not about to get compressed into little pills. Uh uh. Never.

Grade B- LSD, DOB, so forth - is commonly misrepresented as mescaline on the street market. If someone says: "I got some mescaline tabs for sale, dude." What you should hear is: "I have no clue what I have and I'm trying to sell some unknown shit to you...dude." Walk away.

[Perception Addict]

Don't self incriminate, please. Check out the rules for posting here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37552

[RaverHippie]

That sounds like a weak DOB trip. SWIM has come into many sheets of DOB on blotters and has experienced weak to intense trips on DOB. Since SWIY didn't note that much of a bodily tripping feeling that's common with a low dose. Mid to High doses bring about stronger body tripping and higher doses bring dissociative like feelings-atleast in SWIM's experience

[motaburn]

ok lol now the same person i know have try LSD, and he can say i was almost the same experience and feelings... but the going-up of the red star was a nightmare experience compared to LSD

[Plutonian Catalyst]

Hi,

These red stars are always selling as mescaline in France and I would like to know if someone knowing more about that.
You think this is most a DOx or a 2C-x (or 2C-T-x ??), or this could be really LSD?
One redstar is ~7-8mg.

Thanks.

[Shampoo]

Like this?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2ct7.jpg If so, it is possible that it is 2c-t-7, but in the end, no one here can tell you what swiy has in their possession. To really find out, look into a reagent kit or find a chemist who has access to good chromatography equipment/skills.

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agreed

[Plutonian Catalyst]

Thanks for your response, Shampoo.
Yes, it's exactly like in this picture. But many people believe that it can not match because the minimum dose for 2C-T-7 would be 10mg. The red star weighs no more than 8mg and at least 6mg I think (difficult to be precise when mg...).
When you see the redstar in this picture, how do you weigh the red dye if the total weight average 7mg?
This could know more precisely what molecule it might be. If it is a DOx for example, it logically would mean that the dye weighs heavier than the molecule.
What do you think of that?

The effects can go 15 to 20 hours.
Many of euphoria, confusion and memory problems. Also, loss of ego, feeling disociation, synesthesia...


Heavy jaw, nausea and gastrointestinal problems are widely seen...

[chillinwill]

Based on the long duration, it could be a DOx chemical but it could also be 2c-t-7. Like Shampoo said, no one can tell you exactly what the star contains unless one buys a reagent kit or gets it tested by a professional

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true

[tucansam420]

Heavy jaw, nausea and gastrointestinal problems are widely seen...

swim had some blotters that were extra big, 2-3 times the normal size of a blotter.
swim had gastrointestinal problems and swims jaw hurt alot and swims fiancee had nausea and much confusion. what would this be if anyswims know? it was very very colorful and the body load was pretty strong. swim was watching trees turn into roses and thought he was in some leprachaun world. DOx's or 2C-x? what would swim say? or genuine LSD? swim isn't sure if he has ever taken real LSD, but has been given or sold "LSD" a lot of times and this trip swim explained above was different from them all.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by tucansam420

swim had some blotters that were extra big, 2-3 times the normal size of a blotter.
swim had gastrointestinal problems and swims jaw hurt alot and swims fiancee had nausea and much confusion. what would this be if anyswims know? it was very very colorful and the body load was pretty strong. swim was watching trees turn into roses and thought he was in some leprachaun world. DOx's or 2C-x? what would swim say? or genuine LSD? swim isn't sure if he has ever taken real LSD, but has been given or sold "LSD" a lot of times and this trip swim explained above was different from them all.

Based on the bodyload description and the size of the blotters, it could be a DOx chemical such as DOC, DOI, DOB, etc but its hard to say exactly what it could be unless one were to get it tested by a professional

[tucansam420]

Originally Posted by chillinwill

Based on the bodyload description and the size of the blotters, it could be a DOx chemical such as DOC, DOI, DOB, etc but its hard to say exactly what it could be unless one were to get it tested by a professional

swim thought it was something else, but it was such a nice trip, swim loved it. very colorful. what would the bodyload be for LSD compared to the DOx's or 2Cx's. swim hasnt had so much psychedelic drug experience so swim understands if its hard to describe. swim was just curious for future referrence so swim can tell whenever he does get some real LSD.