GHB/GBL Benzodiazepine tolerance

[Carnby]

I would like to know if the tolerance to ghb/GBL is the same as to benzodiazepines, cause they both have to do with gaba receptors.
I mean if SWIM has a tolerance to ghb/gbl, does he also have a tolerance to benzodiazepines even, if he has never consumed them?
have a nice day

[eltimmy]

I mean if SWIM has a tolerance to ghb/gbl, does he also have a tolerance to benzodiazepines even, if he has never consumed them?

Very likely, considering that a good deal of cross-tolerance exists between benzodiazepines and GABA substances like alcohol and barbiturates.

[Carnby]

Thx, I had the same Idea.
Someone had such an experience?
Cheers

[DivineDesign21]

I take Somatomax
at night to sleep and I have to take higher doses now than when I started.

BTW, if you haven't tried it, it's INSANE for sleep and for anxiety. I've never dreamt so much in my entire life. I used to get up an pee every hour and now I can sleep four to six hours straight.

But, the stuff is not cheap. I get it at a local gym and it's almost 60 bucks and I have to buy it every two weeks.

[Pino]

It is not ok to list a source, please read the rules.

Swim copied the ingredient list:

Serving Size: 1 Heaping Scoop (14 grams)
Servings Per Container: 20

Proprietary Blend: 14 g
4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid
Macuna Pruriens Extract (standardized to 20% L-Dopa)
L-Arginine HCL
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylaline
Vitamin B-6
(as Pyridoxine HCL) 10mg 500% Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Natural and Artifical Flavors and Colors, Aspartame, Acesulfame Potassium *Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine

SWIM found on various forums this stuff helped people with sleeping. Swim thinks the unknown compound 4-amino-3-Phenylbutyric Acid has something to do with it. Because the other compounds are inactive or even counterproductive, when it comes to sleeping.

Swiy better watch out the dosages get to high. Swiy can try to take somewhat less every night to build his dosage down. Of course this will cause some problems with sleeping.

Swim also found some additional posts for swiy:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3773
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39664
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24843

[Lehendakari]

SWIM has plenty of experience with both GHB and Benzos, he would say that there is little if any cross-tolerance.

[Carnby]

thx thats a good message

[Broshious]

Originally Posted by Pino

SWIM found on various forums this stuff helped people with sleeping. Swim thinks the unknown compound 4-amino-3-Phenylbutyric Acid has something to do with it. Because the other compounds are inactive or even counterproductive, when it comes to sleeping.

The unknown compound is phenibut.

GHB shouldn't have much cross tolerance with Benzos as GHB hits the GABA-B receptor while Benzos hit the GABA-A receptor.