Health - First-time 2C-I HPPD?

[Jacco]

Hey,

My friend is considering trying 2C-I this weekend. The only thing stopping him is that earlier in the week, he took a few 5-HT capsules, and seemed to start experiencing lasting mild hallucinations. For instance, things seemed to start waving and buzzing, and in the corner of his eyes objects would dart. My opinion is that it's unlikely that the 5-HT could have caused this, but I'm worried still for his health that taking even one 15mg dose of 2C-I might cause some latent psychological problem to give him some hellish HPPD.

One strange thing he reports is that the effect goes with certain hours of the day, and rarely occurs when he's wearing glasses, suggesting some external factor is involved somehow.

Anyone wish to help him decide whether to take the 2C-I?

[Euphoric]

5-HT post dose hallucinations? Has he used any other psychedelics before? Perhaps he is sensitive. He probably shouldn't indulge this weekend (if ever) and wait and see how his current HPPD plays out. If it fades then he may want to try a lower dose of 5-HT and see how that work out. Did he experience any euphoria because of the 5-HT? Should he choose to try psychedelics, he should start with very low doses (as anyone really should) just in case he is sensitive and if there are no problems, then he may wish to try some cautious mind exploration.

[chrisn]

If he is sensitive, he may want to look elsewhere than 2C-I, it seems to be one of the psychedelics most known for causing HPPD symptoms.

[shagra]

swim experienced some definite hppd for a week after his initial use of 2ci at 1mg/lb.

[Nagognog2]

Shagra - that would be a massive OD for a SWIM that weighs more than a maximum of 40 pounds. A standard dose of 2-CI is 10 to 20mg.

[candy_kid]

gotta agree with the others who said 2c-i is bad for hppd- it caused a month or so of hppd for every dose greater than ~15mgs in swim.. however, is hppd really that bad? swim finds it neutral at worst and entertaining at best

[shagra]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Shagra - that would be a massive OD for a SWIM that weighs more than a maximum of 40 pounds. A standard dose of 2-CI is 10 to 20mg.

whoops, meant to type .1mg/lb. could you please edit the previous post? and then maybe delete this one? oh, cannabis.

[Nagognog2]

Nope. I'll leave it clarified. Looks better than a pile of 'deleted' kicking about. Point made. And yes 2-CI exhibits neurotoxicity. But a single dose should not do this to people with with a normal brain chemistry. If your chipmunk exhibits symptoms from 5-HT, I would steer clear of psychedelics. These are research chemicals - all bets are off.

[Jacco]

Originally Posted by Euphoric

5-HT post dose hallucinations? Has he used any other psychedelics before? Perhaps he is sensitive. He probably shouldn't indulge this weekend (if ever) and wait and see how his current HPPD plays out. If it fades then he may want to try a lower dose of 5-HT and see how that work out. Did he experience any euphoria because of the 5-HT? Should he choose to try psychedelics, he should start with very low doses (as anyone really should) just in case he is sensitive and if there are no problems, then he may wish to try some cautious mind exploration.

He tells me he experienced mild euphoria after taking 200mg at one instance. He describes it as more of an inability to feel sad, and constant happiness until a mild crash that left him feeling irritable and hated. I will caution him to lower his dose to a more reasonable one, perhaps 10mg.