Combinations - cocaine and tramadol

[mark_v]

Is it save to mix tramadol with coke or tramadol with speed ?
i'm talking about +- 250 mg of tramadol.

[Micklemouse]

Why spoil a perfectly good drug with crap like coke or speed ? But seriously - actually I'll stick with my original statement. Why?

But really seriously... First off, 250mg is a massive dose in one go to my mind (max dose in UK is 400mg/24 hours orally, 600 mg/24 hour i.m/i.v for post-operative pain, in a controlled setting - don't go trying this at home kttlings!). A Certain Mouse tells me that 50 - 100 is just fine, and an extra 50 an hour or so later puts the icing on the cake.

Secondly, given that tramadol is an opioid, you are basically talking about speed-balling, which as we all know aint such a good thing to be doing. One of the main dangers of speed-balling is the depressant masking nastier effects of over-stimulation/overdose of stimulant. - easily done: can't feel the coke because of the tram, do another line; still can't feel it, rack up another... Another danger is respiratory arrest as the stimulants wear off and the cns depressant effect of the opioid takes hold (probably more of a problem with coke given the shorter duration).

In short then, no, not the safest of cocktails to be frank, and that's before I get onto the ssri qualities of tramodol, and the increased risk of serotonin syndrome with either of those combinations, which you wouldn't be able to easily distinguish from the effects of the combination anyway.

Save the tramadol for the comedown if you're going to combine it, otherwise just do it on it's own and appreciate it for the lovely little med it is. Allegedly.

[mark_v]

Ok Thanx ;-)

I'm a complete n00b to this, but is it save to mix small doses of coke and speed ?

[old hippie 56]

In swim experience, in small doses it is ok, but don't get carried away with it. The rush is too intense for some.

[u4ic]

Never thought much of tramadol. I can think of many other opiods that I would rather have to mix or use for come down. Pretty much any of the other ones accually. To be honest I think tramadol is crap and one of the more dangerous with less known about opiods. It's one of the synthetic ones with seem to be more problematic than the natural or semi. For example to back-up that statement. Demerol and darvon both have toxic metabolites that can build up. But it seems like the opiate/coke "speedball" mix is pretty well tolerated and frequently practiced. I think that the doses of both or at least one should be kept lower than if used by itself because they can amplify each others effects or the biggest advantage is that they take care of each others negative side effects. The appeal is one wants to feel the positve effects of each of these drugs, which is intense euphoria, while losing the negative sides like the anxiety, paranoia and hard crash of coke or the lethargy and unmotivatedness of opiates. It's like having your cake and eating it too. The danger that comes with it is the ability to do more than your normally could handle of each drug, so o.d.ing becomes easier to do. So all in all it's not especially dangerous. What I mean by "especially" is that your not mixing things that increase the harmful factors. Like taking ghb and benzos and/or alcohol which all decrease respirartion. It can be dangerous if done incorrectly, but the same goes for everything. I will go on to say that I think opiates/opiods would be better used to deal with the comedown, say taken about an hour after last line. Let me just end this by saying tramadol is a very new drug. There have been some health concerns with it. It's not a "fun" drug in swims opinion. There's just way better things out there. If I'm wrong about this and someone has heard otherwise and this is a combo that people out there like please let me know. But as far as I'm concerned I don't know of anyone liking tramadol. Ok, maybe someone who is completely opiate naive and gets a heavenly buzz off of 1 vicodin. Then ok I might belive that. But if that really is the cause then why not get a vicodin it's only about 20 times better than ultram (the name brand for tramadol).

[mark_v]

Ok guys, thanks a lot.

SWIM uses Tramadol because it's the only opiod he can lay his hands on, so better then nothing, right ,

[acenicho]

A friend of mine once told me about this time he had 150mg's tramdol slow release then later (a couple of hours) had 500mg's Amphetamine Sulphate then one hour in had another 100mg tramadol and then 50mg tramadol snorted. He also had one or two vodka red bulls as well (not too many)

He thoroughly enjoyed the buzz!

[sands of time]

While tramadol is an opioid of sorts (many debate whether it is or not), it is one of the more speedy opioids. This maybe because it has a higher binding affinity for the delta opioid receptors more so than the mu opioid receptors, but I'm not sure if this is the case. In swim's opinion, this combo could cause extra strain on the heart. If you do decide to try this combo, use smaller amounts of each. I would recommend not doing this combo, as the stimulation could have some nasty effects such as tachycardia and anxiety.

[Equality]

What about using tramadol for the coke comedown ? Does anybody have experience with this ?

Would it ease the come down ?

[someone111]

swim had about 500mg tramadol about 3 hours ago..... swim wants to snort a few lines of blow but doesnt no the risk of mixing the two substances..... any help?

[chinpokomaster]

Anecdotal evidence?

[someone111]

well swim isnt talking about useing a lot of cocaine..... just a line or two

[Benga]

threads merged....

[darkbreed]

SWIM have some tramadol but never though of using it with coke. Dont think SWIM would either. When SWIM used to be a needler he sometimes shot up a mix of amphetamine and heroin which gave quite some rush, but his favorite was flunitrazepam mixed with heroin or pure morphine.