Health - Magic Mushrooms For Treating Depression?

[thatsall]

I recently have been having the blues.....BAD. i am not to thruilled
about goin on anti depressants...dont really want to dont feel it
really treats depression i think it masks it. thats why i think
mushromms might be an idle solution to my problem...i feel i might be
able to get in touch with my innner felling to see whats really
wrong.....I'm so bored with life.. got no motivation....not outgoing
and social like i used to be just feel a losss form self....i feel as
if i am always deep in thought about my self and who i am and what
not...i have an appointment fo this bullshit...i just would like some
point of veiws this idea of mushhies with depression??

[polloloco001]

no, anybody will tell you not to do a psychedelic when youre depressed.
absolute chaos ensues. a bad trip is a nightmarish awful thing. you
dont want it. ecstasy might help you. or you could take your
antidepressants until youre not depressed, then use mushrooms to
explore your psyche, and then quit the antidepressants once youve got
your shit figured out. dont do mushrooms if you are depressed they will
not help you they will make matters far worse.

[thatsall]

Yeah i have had a few bad trips, not because i was depressed. They all
started off great and then one i was at a show and after being
there for half the trip i wanted to go and i just freaked out and
wanted to call my family and tell them i love them and i just felt like
the scum of the earth...i was the worst thing i ever expirenced and
would never want that again. another time Ate a 1/4 at a party by
myself and just....WOW!!! BIG NoNo. But both times after a certain
point in my trip there was a collection of 10second-scenes that kept
occurin and then out of nowhere i stopped tripping...it was
fucked...But anyways ive tripped many times and everytime is awesome..
i really dont come down and i just wish i could always have that
positive mind state...I have such confidence and am more myself then i
have been in a while...I just get in that state of mind where if u dont
like me fine i dont kare ur loss. thats why i htink i fia ate a lil
bymysef at a low dose and just wrot someshit and what not it could be
very beneficial.. I feel its worth a shot since im so anti zoloft and
what not.

[TLG05]

Interestingly, recent research suggests that cannabis has a similar effect on the hippocampus to anti-depressants.


It's a terrible pity it's illegal, so I suppose you'll have to stick to the Prozac.

[thatsall]

Thats funny that u mention that becuase when i smoke weed i just become
a ball of shit. i can only smoke with people i know very well. and just
them no one else. i aint social and fun like i used to be on it. I
wonder if something clickked in my brain when i had a bad trip or tried
coke, or maybe me quiting and then starting up again with weed did it
and what not. well i dont know but i just become a worthless piece of
shit when im high. to be honest weed fucks me up more then a lot
of drugs out there. all it takes is one hit and im high till i sleep.
it ruins my whole day. i am afraid to talk to anybody and anybody i do
talk to knows im high, even if i dont know them lol. so i dont know...?



p.s. whats the hippocampus

[Sky Walker]

Originally Posted by polloloco001

ecstasy might help you.

No it will not, it will just leave you feeling worse than you already do from anywhere between a few days to 6 weeks. Try smoking a Cannabis Sativa strain and take daily supplements of 5-htp. I suggest you give this a go first before heading straight to anti-depresents. Oh yea try to smile, even if you don't feel like it. Watch a comedy every day. Exercise and eat healthy.

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I agree with your suggestions for helping depression, especially the 5-htp, good diet and exercise :)

[TLG05]

Originally Posted by thatsall

p.s. whats the hippocampus

It's the part of the brain that deals with cognition, thought processes, emotions, that sort of thing.


(Have you figured out I'm not an expert on this yet?)

[IHrtHalucingens]

I have tripped many many many times and i know how to control my emotions and know what to expect when tripping so for me shrooming sometimes helps when i have questions about who i am and who i want ot be. i would not recomend it for someone who hasnt tripped very often, but for an experienced tripper it may just lead you on ur way to self realization and life change. anyway my point is shrooming not right for beginenrs who are depressed but can in some cases be beneficial.

[thatsall]

yes.. thats what i was leaning towards i have tripped a lot, and know
how control and sway it in my favorite evry time since i ad those few
bad expirences.and plus i was only goin to do a low dose by myself and
see where it tkaes me. ihave u ever tripped by urself? how was it? hiow
much? what situation and emotianoal state?

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by Lukey

No it will not, it will just leave you feeling worse than you already do from anywhere between a few days to 6 weeks. Try smoking a CannabisSativa strain and take daily supplements of 5-htp. I suggest you give this a go first before heading straight to anti-depresents. Oh yea try to smile, even if you don't feel like it. Watch a comedy every day.Exercise and eat healthy.

Canabis for treating depression???I wouldnt suggest that either , chronic use of canabis is a sure way to get a depression in my book. (been there done that).


The 5HTP is something worth checking out, i started using it after reading about it on this forum. I use it as asleeping aid more then an antidepressantand since i'm not depressed i really cant say if it works. But they advertise it as both a sleeping aid and antidepressant and it clearly enhances my sleep alot so it probably does the other thing also .


My advise, dont use drugs go see a docter and explain you dont wanna take antidepressants and ask for alternatives , maybe present him with your 5HTP option, just make sure you get some guidance. Depressions are nothing to fuck around with.Edited by: xpr´k

[thatsall]

Yeah. Why is it that everyone is saying depresssants are nothing to
fuck around with? what side effects do they have? Any personal
expierences?

[Alfa]

5-HTP is something to look into, but do not use this over a long period as you might make yourserotonine(5-HT) productionlazy, which can give an depressing effect when you quit 5-HTP.

[thatsall]

I will. Is there a certain brand? And what do u mean by a long period.?

[Alfa]

I have had 5-HTP which did practicly nothing for me, while 100 mg of some other 5-HTP let me sleep like a log and let me awake reborn. I can't advise a good brand, but there is a lot of quality difference. This might be because most 5-HTP is in fact griffonia extract. Doctor's manual only says to be extremely carefull with 5-HTP prescription. I wouldn't use it forlonger than a week. 2 weeks break and then another week. But's that only what I would take myself as a maximum. That is not solid advise, it'smy bestguess.

[thatsall]

{"This might be because most 5-HTP is in fact griffonia extract.
Doctor's
manual only says to be extremely carefull with 5-HTP prescription. I
wouldn't use it forlonger than a week. 2 weeks break and then
another
week".} -Alfa-------So your saying look for some that isnt a griffonia
extract or is? I was reading about it and it seems to take effect right
away, so u dont have to load up like some stuff. Well obviosly if u
should only do it for a week or so. And if i did this for a week or so
would the effects stay with me at all or does my level of serotonin go
back to where it was before? And i have read some reports of not
drinking with it..it is said to make u a mean drunk and have a
depressing day after? just curious.

[thatsall]

alfa after looking for htp on the net i have foun that it is all griffonia extract. would u please specify if u can becuase i would like to try 5 htp asap. thanx

[a-SalviaLover]

I do the opposite, and I'm at the opposite opinion about psychedelics and depression. When I get depressed about some reason I tak shroomz. Of couse they get me into a spiritual catharsis, nt very pleasant. But I've found that this catharsis makes the negative emotions after the trip somewhat less intense. I've gotten over it, it is not as great deal as before. I am at the opinion that Shroomz CAN treat depression, although not certainly.

[Silence_Inc]

also remember it's winter time ... depression are more liklley to happen these days ... so don't make it a too big isseu in your life. your mndset is the most important thing in your life - but don't feel bad about it - ever. it will only make it worse. So maybe just go through it - eat healthier and take some vitamins and build up good resistance against bad mindsets by letting them pass by without making them important . ... mainly go through them without hating having them. And than when spring is arround - the sun is bursting energy - you'll feel a bit better - and than think it over again: to use substances as help ...

i had a depressed time too a year ago - talking to some psychologist isn't bad you know ... also - be honest if it is about issues - your life situations - or that you just feel like shit ... feeling like shit can be helped with some vitamins - having shitty issues and mind can be helped with a good talk and some sober insights and acting upon them.

don't take anti-depressants ... you don't need that stuff ... only robots do. you'er a living organism ... constantly changing and growing... it's all waves... just need to surf ... .

[Voices]

Originally Posted by Silence_Inc

also remember it's winter time ... depression are more liklley to happen these days ... so don't make it a too big isseu in your life. your mndset is the most important thing in your life - but don't feel bad about it - ever. it will only make it worse. So maybe just go through it - eat healthier and take some vitamins and build up good resistance against bad mindsets by letting them pass by without making them important . ... mainly go through them without hating having them. And than when spring is arround - the sun is bursting energy - you'll feel a bit better - and than think it over again: to use substances as help ...

i had a depressed time too a year ago - talking to some psychologist isn't bad you know ... also - be honest if it is about issues - your life situations - or that you just feel like shit ... feeling like shit can be helped with some vitamins - having shitty issues and mind can be helped with a good talk and some sober insights and acting upon them.

don't take anti-depressants ... you don't need that stuff ... only robots do. you'er a living organism ... constantly changing and growing... it's all waves... just need to surf ... .

I have never agreed with anyone more than this. Would you willingly injest a chemical that you knew was impure, or cut with something poison? We do all the time, everytime we eat and drink processed foods. If anyone feels depressed, first thing to do is quit injesting soda (or anyting with processed white sugar) and stop eating gas station fast food.

I'm convinced that's why obesety is such a problem these days; people can eat and eat and eat and they're still literally starving to death. Because our main source(s) of food are not real food anymore. It's all artificial flavors and colors added to something with a sprinkle of vitamins that is ment to taste good with no regard for actually being good for you. Quite to the contrary, MSG which is an excitotoxin and accepted by the FDA as a food grade chemical is not required to be listed if it is an analog of MSG being used. Excitotoxins are, according to contemporary thought, very poisonous, yet are in almost every product available in your local grocery store.

[thatsall]

Thanx for the great advice. I appreciate it all. I hate feeling like a downer but my main problem is my lack to socailze from people. I get anxiety when i go in public BAD. It sux but whatever ill get through it one way or another. I tried the 5htp. I really didnt notice any significant effects. I think im gonna try a higher dosage. I took 100mgs. I might try 2-300. I dont know but If It doesnt get better within the next month im gonna try some shrooms. Then if that fails i might have o give in to anti's but i dont even know if i could. It would be better then feeling like this though that is for sure!

[Emperiorjack]

Ive have taken anti-depressants they didn't work at all. They did made me not orgasm and ruined my appetite. These were the only effects noticed on them. Then I have taken 5-htp I didn't notice any effects while on them. Gave the rest of the bottle to my mom. I have taken Buspar for depression and it does work.

[Emperiorjack]

Originally Posted by thatsall

Thanx for the great advice. I appreciate it all. I hate feeling like a downer but my main problem is my lack to socailze from people. I get anxiety when i go in public BAD. It sux but whatever ill get through it one way or another. I tried the 5htp. I really didnt notice any significant effects. I think im gonna try a higher dosage. I took 100mgs. I might try 2-300. I dont know but If It doesnt get better within the next month im gonna try some shrooms. Then if that fails i might have o give in to anti's but i dont even know if i could. It would be better then feeling like this though that is for sure!

Well PM me if the shrooms work cause im interested too. If you do go to a doctor DO NOT get anti-depressants they are a waste of time and money. I recommend a benzo/buspar combo.

[Boyv]

I do not think psychedelics can be the solution to the depression. The only solution is your own mind.

Psychedelica have the possibility to let you think more clearer, think diffirent about matters in life, show perspective in life, opens your mind and on and on and on. This under the condition that you feel certain in life, you feel good. When you do shrooms while you feel really bad, I think that the possibility to become even worse increases big time. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but an egodeath isn't something you want to experience when you already are depressed.

[thatsall]

Buspar seems like it some powerful stuff, do u take it daily or is it something u take once in a while, can u elaborate.

My doc has me on adderall after i told him i get all distant and anxeity and im depressed. hes supposed to be the best. I think he might just be the richest.

[thatsall]

About a week ago SWIM tried to use mushrooms to find the heart of his problem. He ate about a gram and a half. Within an hour he was watching a movie awaiting the effects. They finally crept upon him while watching the a scary movie while tripping. REQUIEM OF A DREAM. That is a very obcene movie and shoiuld be watched with caution while trippin. Once the trip started to kick in hard and the movie ended SWIM went and turned the lights off. This led for room to connect with inner feelings. These feelings were Always there and were just multiplied like he expected. Now the idea was to tackle them head on and find the solution that lies within. This didnt happen and the the trip was very intense, especially for the dose and envirnoment. It was bareable but not effective for initail use of helping with depression. SWIM was able to hold his ground and not take the road to a bad trip. I think the fact that SWIM saw this as a possible outcome before helped alot. The trip was not bad but not at all effective for depression. SWIM was just left at the same place he was before but with a few hours of intense thought and visuals. NOT RECOMMEND FOR THEUROPUTIC USE!!!