Student Tasered During John Kerry Speech

[KBLSD]

Andrew Meyer's mug shot, after he was arrested during a speech given by Senator John Kerry.
Andrew Meyer, a student at the University of Florida, screamed in pain as cops tasered him at a speech given by Senator John Kerry speech.

Meyer, a senior, was questioning Kerry about why he didn't contest the 2004 presidential election.

As his question ran over the one-minute mark, university cops hovered behind him. Then the moderator cut his mic, but he refused to go quietly, and that's when police hauled him out of the auditorium. Some in the audience applauded as he was led away.

But when cops whipped out a taser gun, the crowd began to fear for Meyer's safety, and Sen. Kerry tried to calm the crowd.

There were at least 5 cops on top of Meyer, but police tasered him anyway. As Meyer screamed in pain, some in the audience tried to help him.

As the cops brought Meyer out of the auditorium, he asked to sit but cops refused. And Meyer didn't seem to understand what's happening.

Police charged Meyer with resisting arrest and disturbing the peace.

Senator Kerry just released a statement, saying, "In 37 years of public appearances... I have never had a dialogue end this way."

A spokesman for the campus police department says the incident is under review.

Meyer spent the night in jail and was released Tuesday into the arms of his father, but the video of his tasering continues to be the talk of the country.

http://www.insideedition.com/ourstor...px?storyid=941

check out the video on youtube.http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

[Alfa]

Wow! Tortured, because of asking questions. Fascism in America.

[Alicia]

Tazer justice, oh how they love there silence.. this has happened before in other events if swia recalls.. That must be really an akward speech. wonder where this will lead..

[st3v3]

cops saw he was getting aggressive while questioning, they grabbed him away to take him out of there he resisted, when he resisted they wanted to then right away arrest him for resisting being taken out, then when he resisted arrest and started walking away from them, this situation was quick to escalate without further explanation needed. you don't resist arrest for whatever reason, why? there going to arrest you whether you like it or not anyway. it's just going to make matters worse for you.

i think anybody would have acted out like the guy, nobody wants to be grabbed for a reason undeclared to them.

i think any cop would've reacted to his aggressive questions and would have grabbed him because cops go off instinct. they didn't want the situation getting out of hand. so they tried to control it before it did. cops have rights to take you out if your being too loud and aggressive in a situation like that. your suppose to speak assertively and maturely, not throwing a tantrum over the mic, then nobody is going to trust your next move, especially not the police. then the situation will escalate, and you will wind up in cuffs, charges, and tasered.

if i was a cop i would have grabbed him for asking questions like that, and if he resisted i would have tasered him.

if i was that guy i would have been confused as to why in the hell am i being grabbed away. when your angry, you don't know whats going on around you, you lose control, and that's why he had no idea what was going on, and that's also why the cops grabbed him.

[Mint boi]

Originally Posted by st3v3

if i was a cop i would have grabbed him for asking questions like that, and if he resisted i would have tasered him.

Wtf man, the guy has the right to say whatever he wants, it wasn't like he was inciting the crowd to riot or anything. ffs Kerry told the cops to let him answer the question. the cops were damn unreasonable.

Originally Posted by st3v3

when your angry, you don't know whats going on around you, you lose control, and that's why he had no idea what was going on, and that's also why the cops grabbed him.

Ok i dont know about anyone else but when I'm angry i dont "lose control", he had no idea what was going on because he was all of a sudden being harassed by a bunch of cops

[st3v3]

Wtf man, the guy has the right to say whatever he wants, it wasn't like he was inciting the crowd to riot or anything. ffs Kerry told the cops to let him answer the question. the cops were damn unreasonable.

so if you were a police officer, and somebody didn't obey, you would stop all of a sudden and try to be reasonable? i don't think so. when your a cop you no longer are a regular friendly everyday joe. being polite is out of the question or saying "hey wait a minute, go ahead finish your speech buddy!" hah . . . yeah right. you can't do that, not if your a cop. you have to take every precation seriously. if somebody doesn't listen to you, that's going over the laws head, whether or not it seems fair to you at the time is a different story. nobody in this situation was good nor bad. everybody was playing there roles, as to who they were. cops are dicks..granted a few aren't, and citizens have to stick up for themselves in order to survive in the real world.

Ok i dont know about anyone else but when I'm angry i dont "lose control", he had no idea what was going on because he was all of a sudden being harassed by a bunch of cops

anger is derived out of fear. anger is a complete loss of self control, and the more angry one becomes the further there journey embarks away from reality.

this situation with this man could have been avoided had he not gotten upset in the first place. like i say it's fine to be assertive, but if your too angered in a situation such as this, expect the cops to find it a threat. of course they are going to yank your ass away, whether or not that makes them correct for doing so. cops do what they feel in there power is correct. they don't do it just for the hell of it, especially not in front of a live audience.

[Nagognog2]

Florida. Figures. Where the state police set up roadblocks to keep minorities from getting anywhere near the polls (voting stations), and went door-to-door warning Black people they would be arrested for drugs if they tried to vote.

Seig...

[Mint boi]

Originally Posted by St3v3

so if you were a police officer, and somebody didn't obey, you would stop all of a sudden and try to be reasonable?

no i wouldn't, and i really think the guy brought the tazing on himself(although how 5 cops couldnt subdue him is beyond me), no way he should have struggled, but it was the cops that started the whole thing by grabbing him in the first place

[st3v3]

He didn't get tasered to become subdued. He got tasered clearly for struggling and resisting. The cops didn't slap or punch him to get him under control, they tasered him.

Just as you would if you got into a fight with someday, you would shank him to show him whats up. Let him know your not messing around. The cops tasered him in effort not so much to control the situation, but to let him know that it's better to stop resisting them entirely. The student was aggressive, and would have never gotten tasered otherwise.

Again, cops can grab you if they feel the right to do so within instinct. Everybody knows that. That's why you don't start hassling and getting aggressive around cops.
If they see you getting mad in a setting such at this, of course there going to grab you. Security guards do the same thing, COs do the same thing, basically all officers
learn to do that in basic training.

You know most of all those officers who have won awards and such, are the most dick headed cops you will ever meet. It's all just different when you are a cop.

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	I don't like waght you are saying-- should I taser you?
	a boost to get you going towards silver

[KBLSD]

they will probably drop the charges because all the media attention and protest and such

[Alfa]

Yes, I have been reviewing non-drug related forums yesterday and this is everywhere.

[Nagognog2]

John Kerry agreed to allowing the young man to use the microphone to ask the question about why he didn't do more about the charges of voter fraud. And Kerry said he wanted to answer the question. But in the midst of the asking - the cops attacked the guy.

Oh yeah - this story is everywhere. And not likely to die, either.

[USMC Wannabe]

I was observing an English class for a local high school today and they were having a debate about this situation...

Some kid in the class freaked out and threw his book at the teacher because the teacher said the guy deserved to get taszed...

This is really affecting people, or that kid is insane.

[zera]

This is the same police department that harassed and arrested my friend as he was walking home Saturday night for public intox, then riffed through his wallet to find his fake ID and decided to charge him with a felony. Im not saying they acted illegally in that situation but that shows you the departments mindset, setting a kid up with something that will haunt him for the rest of his life (felony conviction) because of something that 90% of college students have. Its not like he was even trying to use it when they arrested him.

Gainesville police definitely have the use cop power to the maximum mentality. More so than other places in Florida, where the police tend to be more laid back (especially on the coast)

[Nagognog2]

Be interesting if a whole bunch of parents got together and withheld tuition payments until a new, progressive, police force was installed there. They sent their kids there for an education. Is it described in their catalogue that this education may include a criminal charge, torture with electrical devices, a night (or more) in jail, and a criminal record?

If the school ignores the protest by the parents and expells the kids - can you say "class-action lawsuit?"

[dutch-marshal]

this makes me enraged...

i am afraid that one day we all be like that...

but we will all have to fight them..then they have no chance!

anarchism!

[fnord]

From a my$pace bulletin:



Welcome to the new police state


What you have just witnessed in this video is an authentic scene of police state brutality. The video clearly shows that:

• Meyer was assaulted by six officers, thrown to the ground and attacked with a violent weapon.

• Meyer volunteered to leave the room if the officers would let him go.

• Meyer did not strike any officer at any time. His hands were always in a defensive position.

• Meyer attempted to flee his assailants (as any rational person would).

• Meyer committed no crime whatsoever. At no point did any law enforcement officer accuse Meyer of committing any crime other than "resisting arrest" (which is not a crime when the arrest is illegal in the first place, see below).

• Meyer was arrested for merely exercising his Free Speech rights.



It is every citizen's duty to resist false arrest


There is no such crime as "resisting arrest." This is a fictitious crime dreamed up by law enforcement to accuse a citizen of a crime when they refuse to surrender to the illegal demands of the police.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled on numerous occasions that resisting a false arrest is not merely a citizen's right, but his duty! In fact, the Supreme Court has gone so far as to rule that if a law enforcement officer is killed as a result of actions stemming from a citizen's attempts to defend themselves against a false arrest, it is the fault of the officer, not the citizen.

Here's a short collection of relevant court rulings on false arrest and resisting arrest:

"When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified." Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

"These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence." Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

"An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery." (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

In other words, Andrew Meyer would have been justified in using whatever reasonable means necessary to defend his life against his assailants. The gang of six individuals who assaulted Meyer, regardless of what clothing and badges they were wearing, were threatening his safety and his life. They assaulted him with a dangerous and potentially deadly weapon, and they kidnapped him by forcefully removing him from the room against his will.

Was Meyer being annoying to others by taking up air time at the microphone? Perhaps so. But being annoying is not a crime. If it were, John Kerry, President Bush and practically elected official in the country should be arrested. They're all far more annoying than Meyer.

Additional information from the courts:

"Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense." (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).


Why did the bystanders not assist Meyer?


The most astonishing thing about this video is not merely the fact that six police officers brutally assaulted and arrested Meyer for his "Free Speech crimes," but that this room full of onlookers did nothing while Meyer screamed for help. (YES!!!WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?)

In 1964, a New York resident named Kitty Genovese was stabbed to death, screaming for help, while hundreds of her neighbors watched and did nothing. No one called the police. The case of Kitty Genovese became a lightning rod for psychological research that attempted to understand the madness of crowds and why a group of people would do nothing to help an innocent bystander.

(Elaine: This happened to me some years ago in a hotel, when I was being chased by an ex-boyfriend trying to assault me!!! It was one of the scariest times in my life as I screamed at the top of my lungs for someone to help me. Doors opened and closed just as quickly, but NOT ONE person came to my rescue!! I couldn't believe it!!)

Today, in Florida, a room full of fellow students looked on and did nothing while their classmate, Andrew Meyer, was brutally attacked by an armed gang, right on the floor in front of them. They watched and did nothing. Not one person attempted to rush to the aid of Meyer who was screaming "HELP! HELP ME!"

Do individuals have the right to come to the aid of another citizens being falsely arrested? You bet they do. As another court case ruled:

"One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance." (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

And on the issue of actually killing an arresting officer in self defense:

"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary." Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529.



Why onlookers did nothing

The sad fact of this matter is that the onlookers did nothing because Americans have been terrorized by their own government to fear authority and follow orders. Americans fear their government. That alone is a dangerous situation, since the balance of power in a free society actually depends on a government fearing the people!

When the people fear their government, that government has complete power over the people. And our government in particular has used fear as a weapon of mass terror against the American people for several decades now. The U.S. government now has Americans so scared of fictitious threats that the citizens have submitted to the most insane security processes, such as surrendering bottles of water at the airport before boarding an airplane, or submitting to random searches of vehicles at roadside checkpoints.

In this particular video, we are watching a group of terrorized onlookers sit in their chairs and do nothing while a fellow citizen is arrested and assaulted for committing no crime. If all this sounds familiar, it should: You probably read it in the novel 1984 by George Orwell.

In a police state society, the citizens are turned against each other. Each looks out for only his own survival, ignoring cries for help by fellow citizens who are being assaulted or killed by the state-run police forces. No one comes to the aid of another because they, too, would then be arrested for "resisting arrest" and charged with some bogus crime (or simply locked away and "disappeared").

Don't think this could happen in the USA? You just watched it happen. You are witnessing the reaction of a nation of citizens who live in fear. There is no more rational reaction to police brutality in this country. Everyone simply watches it, tolerates it, and says nothing.

From this point there is no limit to the degree of police powers abuse that can now be perpetrated against the citizens of this nation. The sheeple have surrendered to fear and submitted to the false authority of so-called "law enforcement" gangs who actually have no respect whatsoever for laws.

Andrew Meyer deserves to be seen as a hero for his courageous actions in the face of police brutality and complete abandonment by his fellow students. His video serves as a powerful reminder that the citizens of this nation have already lost their freedoms, and if they do not wake up and start to protest, exercise free speech and fight against police brutality, they will never regain the rights and freedoms that once existed in this nation.



It is no coincidence that the police made an example of Andrew Meyer


One more thing worth remembering here: In a police state society, the state must, from time to time, remind the citizens who's in charge. This incident serves as a powerful reminder to those who might dare to exercise their Free Speech rights and ask tough questions of Senators or Presidents: Those who refuse to follow the propaganda will be assaulted and arrested!

The wild popularity of this video on YouTube only serves to remind millions of viewers of what might happen to them if they, too, decide to speak out and actually tell the truth at a public gathering.

Remember, the first rule of tyranny is that you've got to stop people from speaking the truth. The second rule is to punish anyone who dares to speak the truth, and the third rule is to make sure the people don't help each other resist false authority.

You saw all three rules played in in today's YouTube video. Watch it again at: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Thankfully, we're not yet in a full-on police state, or else you wouldn't be able to read this article. We still have some time to reverse this situation and take back our freedoms. I encourage you to do so in every non-violent way possible. Speak out! Protest! Tell the truth in an auditorium! Refuse to remain silent. Refuse to submit to fear and false authority.

Remember: The only way to protect Free Speech is to exercise it. Use it or lose it.




Police state USA:

[top]Student assaulted and tasered by police for asking John Kerry the wrong question

Tuesday, September 18, 2007 by: Mike Adams

Andrew Meyer, a 21-year-old student at the University of Florida, was assaulted by police officers yesterday immediately after asking Sen. John Kerry if he was associated with the Skull and Bones Society. Uniformed police officers brutally assaulted Meyer with a taser, jolting him with tens of thousands of volts of electricity as he screamed, "Help! Help me!" to a room full of astonished onlookers. The mainstream media is censoring the truth of this story, refusing to report the nature of the question asked by Meyer immediately preceding his brutal arrest and kidnapping (see below) by assaulting police officers.

A video of the event, filmed by Kyle Mitchell, is making the rounds on the internet and is available now at YouTube.com: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

The two-minute video shows officers grabbing Meyer's arms, throwing him to the ground and then, after Meyer is already secured on the ground, blasting him with a taser.

Here's a blow-by-blow account of what happens in the video. All dialog below is from Andrew Meyer:

Meyer is at the microphone, asking Sen. John Kerry a question. Police are standing behind him. "Are you a member of Skull and Bones... are you in the same secret society?"

Two uniformed police officers step forward and grab his arms.

"Excuse me, what are you arresting me for?"

Officers are holding his arms and begin to march him away from the microphone.

"Woah, woah! Is anybody watching this?"

Meyer holds his arms in the air, is shouting something to the audience to get them to pay attention. The audio is difficult to hear. At no point is he fighting the officers or striking them in any way. He is merely holding his arms in the air and attempting to stand his ground and be heard.

A large uniformed officer forcefully picks him up by his torso and begins to carry him away from the room down the center aisle.

"Help! Help! They're arresting me! What have I done?"

When Meyer reaches the back of the room, he does what any rational human being would attempt to do when assaulted by someone: He attempts to flee.

"Get away from me, man. Get off of me!"

He tries to run but is grabbed by officers and thrown to the ground. The number of officers now assaulting Meyer is six: Four white males, one white female and one black male.

"What did I do? HELP! HELP!"

The six officers pin his arms and legs to the ground and pull out handcuffs.

"HELP ME! HELP! They're arresting me!"

The female officer, with her finger pointed at him, screams at him, "Stop resisting!"

He relaxes a bit and says, "If you let me go, I'll walk out of here."

The female officer says, "Quiet down! Do it now!"

Then the officers forcefully turn him over and thrust his torso to the ground so that he's laying flat on his stomach, with his face on the floor.

"Why are they arresting me? Can someone do something here?"

"What did I do? Get off me, man! I didn't do anything!"

He tries to sit up, using his arm to grasp the edge of a seat and pull himself up. An officer pulls out a taser.

"Don't tase me bro! Don't tase me!"

The officer tasers the student, and the taser clicking is clearly heard on the video.

"OWWW! OWWW! OWWW!"

Another girl is heard screaming in the background (unknown at this time who it is).

"OWWW! OH MY GOD! WHAT DID I DO?"

Someone screams in the background, "Police brutality!"

Someone in the foreground (bearded man) says, "Stay back!"

Police escort Meyer out of the room and the video ends.

[allyourbase]

it was clearly the content of his question that illicited the response...it was right as he was asking "were you and george bush part of the same secret society known as skull and bone..." and they move in and drag him away.

in regards to alfas comments....our federal banks funded the fascists. germany may have lost the second world war, but fascism won it. look at the european union for an example. its exactly the plan hitler had in mind.

[Nature Boy]

To be honest, I think the idiot deserved to be tazered. He was clearly looking to cause a scene and despite the electric shock, I think he was quite pleased with the result he got. His face all over TV and newspapers and his fifteen minutes of fame. Pathetic really. Quote of the week: "Don't tazer me, bro!"

[senorsalvia]

I find this whole thing to be just another example of the horrid and headlong plunge AmeriKKKa has been moving toward for more than a couple of decades... Rather than do a point by point cbservation of the differing opinions shown here, I'd just like to say that Gainesville Fl. is a relatively laid back town as far as police response goes.. (Lived there for nearly three yrs recently) Tallahassee, on the other hand (where I now reside) is of a far more fascist mind state!!!---- Side note... I've been tasered before just because I told an officer that I would not answer any questions other than to state my name, address, social security number, ans ro ask what ny charges were and how much my bond was..... Face it, AmeriKKKa is a dictatorial nation and the police are the "occupation forces" paid to keep the citizenry down..............

[zera]

Originally Posted by senorsalvia

I find this whole thing to be just another example of the horrid and headlong plunge AmeriKKKa has been moving toward for more than a couple of decades... Rather than do a point by point cbservation of the differing opinions shown here, I'd just like to say that Gainesville Fl. is a relatively laid back town as far as police response goes.. (Lived there for nearly three yrs recently) Tallahassee, on the other hand (where I now reside) is of a far more fascist mind state!!!---- Side note... I've been tasered before just because I told an officer that I would not answer any questions other than to state my name, address, social security number, ans ro ask what ny charges were and how much my bond was..... Face it, AmeriKKKa is a dictatorial nation and the police are the "occupation forces" paid to keep the citizenry down..............

I hope you filed civil charges against the police department for what the officer did to you. If we start making the police pay for misconduct maybe they will think twice.

[Paracelsus]

I doubt many cops know anything about S&B. This looks more like a silent alarm has been triggered when the little idiot asked the wrong question. Police had to restrain, incapacitate, and remove the threat immediately.

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good point.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by allyourbase

it was clearly the content of his question that illicited the response...it was right as he was asking "were you and george bush part of the same secret society known as skull and bone..." and they move in and drag him away.

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

I doubt many cops know anything about S&B. This looks more like a silent alarm has been triggered when the little idiot asked the wrong question. Police had to restrain, incapacitate, and remove the threat immediately.

That response seems to indicate that this was the answer to his question.
Asking such question is likely to become painful. In effect he was asking if the democracy is a façade and if the country has been under dictatorial rule of the same group of people since long ago.