Dose - THC overdose?

[integer]

last night i was smoking ice2000, i had about 5 joints but i wasn't as
high as i wanted to be so i filled up my pipe and went to work on it





after about 10 minutes of some huge ass tokes from the pipe i obtained
the greatest high i've ever had on weed, and then it just kept going
deeper and deeper. i had previous experience with intense shroom trips
so i wasn't freaking out that badly, but i had a number of crazy
effects that i'm a bit scared about. can someone please help me make
sense of this!





1. i had the absurd amounts of "brain pressure", it felt like my head would explode any second and that my ears were bleeding.





2. i would feel the internals of my brain, i could feel blood flowing
through my brain and all these warm waves of nothingness washing over
my entire body and especially my brain.

it felt very very wrong. its almost like i could feel every
particle of blood moving through my brain. why did this happen?





3. 1 weird effect was that it felt like i had multiple personalities,
whenever i thought of something i would hear like 3 or 4 answers coming
from my mind in slightly different voices and they all talked at the
same time. i thought i was going mental!

[Pinkavvy]

lol

you can't overdose on THC, especially by smoking bud. sounds like you just smoked a lot of creeper. as far the the headache, that'll happen when you smoke that much plant material (5 joint+) ... that's a lot of smoking plant materials and will always cause a headache. if you must smoke that much to get high, then you should switch to hash, or vaporizing your nugs.

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[knowname]

Yeah thats a crazy amount to smoke... I smoked almost that much last night and felt shitty.

[cyberfunk]

i've had that kind of brain pressure b4. But its because weed increases your blood pressure so it kinda gives you a headache. As for the multiple personalities, i've experiance that b4 when i was supper stoned. I think its kinda weird but entertaining.

[Creeping Death]

I threw up 3 or 4 times from smoking a huge amount of weed once. I felt terrible. Just smoke it over a long period of time to avoid that shit.

Btw, Ice2000 tastes like shit.

[D.U.M.B]

I have came close to having too much THC in my body once and it was great. I was so stoned,

Overdosing on THC?

[nooo]

ive never once been sick from weed, i dont get it. ive smoked like superhuman amounts before in my day and only have thrown up when coughing too much from a big hit. and i dont think ive ever gotten a headache from pot. i thought thought pot was like against headaches and nausea. usually cures my headaches and nausea. plus its like fuckin impossible to overdoes on weed by smokin it

[cheggyshaggy]

Check your blood pressre if it persists. I used to suffer from
something similar, and itwas due to synergistic properties of some
other drugs raising my blood pressure.



A side note: a TRUE marijuana overdose, is possible, a marijuana POISONING, through normal usage methods, is impossible.



When smoking, not only will your body stop absorbing thc after a
certain amount is in your bloodstream(transfer in the alveoli ceases
due to over saturation), but before you can reach toxic levels you will
be asleep, WAY before.... i don't remember what the LD50 is for THC,
but it is EXTREMELY high... The response curve on marijuana is one of
the most lineal and safe, so, yeah....

[AcmeSewageCo]

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Alright... THC poisoning is theoretically impossible... Let me tell you why that is with a simple... Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality to this very day after 10,000 or so years of use... Cheggyshaggy said that he did not know the LD50... Though he was correct... It's extremely high... Impossibly high... At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response. Sooo... Having that said... In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.THCis one of the safestsubstances on the planet... Why it's banned is foolish... Butyou can't argue with 60 something years ofcannabis opression... They willnever legalize inmy generations life time... Perhapsthe youngones D.Enjoy... Cheers .Edited by: AcmeSewageCo

[polloloco001]

i heard that you actually can overdose on THC, but you would have to
smoke 8 kilograms in 15 minutes. in case you are bad with math thats
like 16,000 joints in 15 minutes. maybe if you shot up pure hash oil.

[Nicaine]

Before you'd die from a THC overdose, you'd probably die from inhaling too much carbon monoxide from the smoke. I suppose tho that you'd have to shut yourself in a tiny room (like 6'x6') and actually burn large amounts of weed without allowing the smoke to escape. Doubtful you could do it via regular smoking (however, you could make yourself quite ill).

Most likely what you felt were the effects of too much smoke inhalation (carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, other toxins) combined with the effects of the high.Edited by: Nicaine

[unico_walker]

It is theoretically possible to OD fatally, if you received injections
of pure THC. Thats assuming the LD50 isn't just conjecture.

But consuming marijuana it is totally impossible.

[AcmeSewageCo]

Scientists are still yet able to totally get THC pure... At least since last I've heard... Because if they did you know the underground chemists or some sort of government chemist would have pure THC pills or injectable syringes and such for sale... Eliminating the use for smoking the cannabis bud or making it into a tea or anything... Or you would have heard more about people shooting up with THC... But I have yet to ever heard that anyone has been successful at a full blown 100% pure extraction.At least since last I've heard there was never an extraction of pure THC... If I'm incorrect then pardon my error and explain your logic... But if THC was in a pure injectable form... Then I'm surea humancould die of an "overdose"... You are absolutely correct. Well if anyone has heard any news about pure THC in an injectable or pill form... Alert me asap I would love to know more about this... Until then... Cheers

[sterling77]

Originally Posted by AcmeSewageCo

Well if anyone has heard any news about pure THC in an injectable or pill form... Alert me asap

ASAP ALERT:



Right after your post a new pill called "Marinol" just hit the streets, containing pure synthetic THC.





Joking of course. Marinol has been around for some 15 or 20
years. It's just not the same as smoking bud though, as bud has
the other cannabinoids such as CBN, CBD, THCV, et cetera that add to
the high. However, just add a little marinol on top of some bud
and you'll be high as anything.

[desolated000]

Ok, I know there is no known toxicity level for thc, but my friend is set on the idea that if you get high enough it can cause life threatening conditions, like trouble breathing or panic / spasing type things.. I don't beleive him and technically the weed wouldnt be the direct cause of the death, but I can't find any hard evidence against it.

[Forthesevenlakes]

too much of ANYTHING can kill you, though...whether its vitamins, water, or tofu. but marijuana seems to have an extremely high safety margin and thats why theres no known toxicity. swim thinks that the impossibility of a weed overdose is probably due to the fact that the thc would likely put one to sleep while ingesting it before they'd be able to consume a dose that would cause breathing problems or shut down the heart or brain (if thc could even do that). perhaps if an organism had escalating amounts of thc or marijuana forced into them even after unconsciousness, the organism could die, but to swim's knowledge this hasnt been studied. certainly breathing problems and panic can be caused by recreational dosages of marijuana, but to swim's knowledge these are not life threatening.

[enquirewithin]

If SWID can fatally overdose on weed, they will make history!!

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lol yes

[Alicia]

Maybe they'd find a ld50 for thc if they could inject it some how . which is impossible due to the fact its not water soluble.

[Nahbus]

Yeah, all those negative effects are really just anxiety... you may 'feel' like you are dying... but you are just kind in a panic.
SWIM has severe anxiety and both anxieties (his anxiety condition vs marijuana anxiety) feel about the same. Marijuana can definately intensify anxiety, but it can also reduce it. Different strains, your brain chemistry, all factor in to your experience.

Anxiety will not kill you, though.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by Alicia

Maybe they'd find a ld50 for thc if they could inject it some how . which is impossible due to the fact its not water soluble.

maybe someone could inject a subject with thc butter and "discover" that thc is extremely lethal!

[Nagognog2]

It could be possible for someone to be scared to death. If someone were scared to death - popped a blood vessel in the sponge in the skull - and they happened to be smoking pot, of course pot would be blamed for this and make Nazional Headlines in ze USA. Of course if they were scared to death from having a DEA SWAT team burst into their home with machine guns looking for a bag of pot (and none was found), this would also be blamed on pot.

By the way, this did happen to a minister in his 70's in Boston in the early 1990's.

[desolated000]

basically what he claims is that the thc wont make you unable to breath, but at a cetain point it can make you too stupid to breath... I still don't beleive him but it seems like it might be possible.

[Solidly-here]

Desolated says: "my friend is set on the idea that if you get high enough it can cause life threatening conditions, like trouble breathing or panic / spasing type things."

Yeah, well I have a friend who is sure that he will be picked up by an Alien spaceship some day. Both of our friends have about the same percentage chance of their things happening.

Why not have your friend smoke-up 2 Ounces of White Widow? If he lives, you can Post it here. If he dies, let him Rest in Peace.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Solidly-here

Why not have your friend smoke-up 2 Ounces of White Widow? If he lives, you can Post it here. If he dies, let him Rest in Peace.

Swia lol would be willing to do that test

[Sky Walker]

Tell your friend he is wrong, ask him for some evidence to support his claim, tell him no one in the history of recorded history has ever died as a direct result of marijuana consumption. Then tell him that it is physically impossible to ever ingest any where near the theorized LD50 for marijuana and that he is at a higher risk of death from consuming potatos than marijuana. Then if he still doesn't listen, maybe tell him he's an idiot and that he should stop smoking until his head is clear and he can reach a logical conclusion of the actual (minimal) harms causes by marijuana.


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