Dose - Tolerance to Hawaiian Baby Woodrose

[Psychonautica]

Swim went through a phase where she enjoyed lsa seeds quite frequently. The first time was amazing, she felt great and tripped quite hard off of 4 seeds. And she was amazed and exited to discover that smoking a bowl during the come down brought it up to a new and very lsd like level.

But to swim's dismay after about the 5th or 6th experience, the nauseous come up became worse and worse. The heavy euphoric body high became too heavy and just made swim feel sick and sort of dizzy throughout the trip.

Has anyone ever experienced this before? Swim LOVED those little seeds, but after a while they just treated her badly and what used to feel great now just feels gross and too heavy. Is there any known tolerance to lsa? This doesn't really seem like a tolerance so much as an "anti-tolerance", any input would be much appreciated.

[Ontherooftops]

Swim had the exact same experience to the T. Swim hasn't used HBWR for a long while, and even after long breaks the seeds have maintained their sickening body load. Its sad, but swim would recommend stopping while swiy is ahead(ish).

[ljfe]

I'd suggest trying a tea. It really decreases the nausia, and maybe the heavy feeling. Also try ingesting them (or drinking the tea) very slowly. gl

[vantranist]

Well most pychedlics great a great tolerance but most should fade after 7 days.

Tolerance will make or break a trip for swim.

If you have waited months or weeks between usage and its still the same perhaps your pychologicly just used to the effects... Kind of how a meth user somtimes wont get the Exact same effect as the first time with no tolerance even.

[tayo]

swim thinks it's usually not a good idea to binge on psychedelics, it's just not the same and tolerance is increased alot even the day after... however unfortunate it may be it's usually best to wait a while, and remember things like psilocybin can often have a cross-tolerance to alot of other psychedelics.

[The Wizard]

Tolerance is a fucking bitch. My friend has ingested Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds 4 times in the last 2 week period and is starting to exhibit a tremendous tolerance. His first 3 trips he took 12-13 seeds each time and his last trip he doubled his dose and took 25 seeds at once.

His trip off 25 seeds wasn't nearly as potent as his first and second trip. His mind is so used to being in the Woodrose zone that tripping no longer gives him visuals and he's getting less and less insight.

My friend's going to try to force himself to take a break for a few weeks to a few months. If he's unable to wait this long to trip again he thinks he'll use Syrian Rue with Woodrose next time he does it as Rue MASSIVELY potentiates the seeds. You haven't tripped until you've tried LSAhuasca (woodrose + syrian rue/harmala) my friends...

[hoodabudda]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Tolerance is a fucking bitch. My friend has ingested Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds 4 times in the last 2 week period and is starting to exhibit a tremendous tolerance. His first 3 trips he took 12-13 seeds each time and his last trip he doubled his dose and took 25 seeds at once.

His trip off 25 seeds wasn't nearly as potent as his first and second trip. His mind is so used to being in the Woodrose zone that tripping no longer gives him visuals and he's getting less and less insight.

My friend's going to try to force himself to take a break for a few weeks to a few months. If he's unable to wait this long to trip again he thinks he'll use Syrian Rue with Woodrose next time he does it as Rue MASSIVELY potentiates the seeds. You haven't tripped until you've tried LSAhuasca (woodrose + syrian rue/harmala) my friends...

swim gaurantees if you took 25 of his seeds you would FRY BALLS 10 gets him like 2 hits of acid...

[psyche]

SWIM experienced some very unpotent seeds from an american vendor. They looked more like rivea corymbosa than argyreia nervosa(HBWR). They were more round (like the indian name for them, ololiuhqui(round ones) implies), they didn't have any removable layer and were a bit bigger. This vendor seemed very pragmatic; they explained how they made their extracts, didn't have any guides for recreational use and claimed to have checked the alkaloid constistency of extracts with some technique which I don't recall.

As to the tolerance, SWIM knows it lasts for some 3 or 4 days at minimum, but how much do you think the dose will have effect? SWIM is in a situation where he'd very much like to eat tomorrow HBWR seeds, but he had yesterday afternoon 2 of them. Only two. It ain't a lot. But since I don't exactly know how the tolerance works, how does the 2A receptor desensitise, or how much this desensitation is dependant on a dosage, I'm asking for SWIY's experiences. Or knowledge on theoretical level, but I doubt solid study's exist to clarify this question. If SWIM was to double his dose, take four seeds tomorrow, he might experience something comparable to yesterday? 2 seeds is extremely low dose, but taken with 2mg of xanor it really made his afternoon much more alive and reality more tangible. Ofcourse xanor dulled it up, but SWIM already lives too much on his rational mind and has difficulty going with the flow and emotion, so this combination proved to be very pleasent and useful as a lesson on how to enjoy one's life. Please some input till tomorrow?

[psyche]

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