Spirits and SubCoca Comments

[Lehendakari]

After all the hype with this mysterious legals SWIM decided to serve as guinea pig. This is clearly not recommended, as whe don't know what's in them so SWIM could have been ingesting rat poison with heavy metals for all he knows.

Anyway here are his comments about them:

1 capsule of spirits on empty stomach around 1 pm. 80 kg male pig.

The onset is about +10 it hits strong with chills all around the body and perception altered, euphoria, jaw clenching and a great mood lift, some pupil dilation. This is actually very enjoyable, probably the best thing swim had since MDMA in terms of extra happiness and empathy.

As quick as it hits it peaks and it comes down. SWIM was peaking at t+30 and this only lasted anoher half hour.

T+1h It is clearly coming down and SWIM has some bad feeling of "impending doom" anxiety and discomfort is pretty noticeable and SWIM is tempted to do one more.

He instead takes some alprazolam to calm him down. At T+2 hours there are some residual effects and some pupil dilation but euphoria and all the good things are gone.

Overall, good but not worth it. The comedown wasn't good and the great euphoria and empathy were very short-lived. There is a strong feeling of doing the whole bottle so addiction is a danger to take into consideration.

SubCoca 1 capsule 1 pm empty stomach 80 kg pig one week after spirit experience.

The experience is the same as above but it hits later (T+30-40) and also last longer (peak T+90 comedown T+2h). These are even more euphoric and have a great sexual component spirits don't have. Hornyness is the best difference about them. Comedown also bad. Temptation to do more also present.

Final comment.

SWIM will not experiment further with these products, at least till he knows what he is taking. The comedown as he stated isn't worth it.

SWIM thinks the Spirits and SubCoca share their main ingredients with different blends and they have different add-ons. SWIM has some capsules left and he's always tempted, so he will proceed soon to donate them to other guinea pigs.

[Benga]

swim doesn't want to spread rumours, but in his quest for information on this subject swim has recently started to read some rather negative side-effects associated with the pills from regular users. And has read one comment, from someone supposedly analysing the active ingredient in this range of pills, pointing out to a potential toxicity. but alas without further detail such a comment is worth very little, and could be anything.
swim just hopes "the mystery ingredient" will soon be exposed properly, the bubble is clearly about to burst anyway ( counterfeit stuff and internet auctions around the corner) "legal highs" sold with such an illegal street drug mentality aren't in grey area, but a stinky brown area in swim's opinion.

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[Lehendakari]

^^ If a drug comedown is related to its possible toxicity I would say these are def toxic. It was the worst comedown SWIM has ever experience. Another thing that SWIM didn't say is that the comedown comes suddenly, with no warning. He was feeling great and the second after he felt like hell.

[Benga]

swim has not tried them but people close to swim have. They didn't report a harsh comedown, at least weaker than that of cocaine for instance.

however reports, verified this time, indicate that the physical qualities of the powder as well as effects obtained from different batches varies. No consistency, which is very worrying it itself, as it implies that the people manufacturing these are either unskilled, careless or working in rather nasty conditions. Maybe all of the above...
swim would advise to stay away.
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[vcdman]

cool thanks for the report...
My pet cat is constantly tempted by those products, but as yet is still holding out, simply because of ingesting unknown chemicals isnt wise according to my pet cat..

oh well i guess he'll continue to bit his nails in frustration of this catch 22...

[radiometer]

I note that one of the stimulants released on to the "research chemical" market in the last year, sometimes called diphenylprolinol, was developed originally to aid with withdrawal from cocaine...