Other - GBL in Canada

[jujubeans]

Swim wants to know whether GBL can be imported into Canada from UK. Even after Swim read through government websites, it still remains unclear whether or not the *big* package will get confiscated at the canadian border

[MrG]

http://www.cscb.ca/050/rs_prev_e.cfm?ID=11883


15 December 2005

Publication of the Regulations Amending the Precursor Control Regulations (PCR) and the Order Amending Schedule VI to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA)
The following announcement is from Health Canada.
This is to advise you that the Regulations Amending the Precursor Control Regulations and the Order Amending Schedule VI to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act were published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, on December 14, 2005.
The amendments to this new regulatory framework have been identified by Health Canada and stakeholders as issues which can only be effectively resolved through amendment of the Regulations.
These amendments strengthen the regulatory framework, for example, add a requirement for a licence to possess a precursor for the purpose of producing a controlled substance, such as methamphetamine; minimize regulatory burden and any negative impact on the legitimate trade of precursors, for example, exempt certain activities such as import, export and provision/sale of preparations containing Class A precursors which have been deemed to be of little risk of diversion for illicit use; and clarify and streamline the requirements for certain provisions. The PCR amendments and the changes to item 17 of Schedule VI to the CDSA came into force on the day they were registered (November 21, 2005).
Other amendments add six substances to the CDSA and the PCR: gamma butyrolactone (GBL), 1,4 butanediol (BDO), red phosphorus, white phosphorus, hypophosphorous acid, and hydriodic acid, due to their extensive use in the illicit manufacture of the controlled drugs methamphetamine and gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB). The addition of the six substances to Schedule VI to the CDSA and the PCR will come into force on January 31, 2006.

These and other amendments to the PCR are set out in the Regulations, and explained in the Regulatory Impact Analysis Statement (RIAS). The Regulations and RIAS are available on the Canada Gazette web site at:

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2005/20051214/pdf/g2-13925.pdf
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2005/20051214/html/index-e.html



So, unless SWIY has a license to import then he may get into trouble if his package gets looked at on its way across the border.

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Thanks for sharing that.

[whipcreamdemon]

I know a Zebra that has imported GBL from overseas a few times and the Zebra lives in the communist state of the USA and has never had any problem. The Zebra cannot gaurantee no confiscation but doesn't think it will happen. When your disire for the GBL overcomes your fear of confiscation youll order. If that doesn't happen then you really didn't want it bad enough.

[Borracho]

My Rottweiler told me its probably safer to convert GABA to GBL. He thinks ordering a product containing GBL into Canada would be too risky. But then again what does he know, hes just a stupid dog.

[jujubeans]

Swim's online purchase was successful. Yay!

[Borracho]

Sweet!!

[MrG]

As successful as the delivery was SWIY should at least base his storage method on the assumption that he may still get a knock at the door.

E.G. Don't keep it next to a tub of caustic soda and some pH testing strips!

[Alekseev]

SWIM would do well to treat this purchase as his last...

[pepsity]

SWIY should order directly from canada to avoid customs problem !! its a bit more expensive but you avoid a lots of complication !!

[aionsan]

Schedule VI ?

Isn't that a lame sort of restriction that only prevent things to be sold to "private individuals" or "under 21" ?

[aionsan]

Schedule VI (Precursors)
Class A

* Ephedrine (easily reduced into methamphetamine)
* Isosafrole (used in making MDMA)
* Lysergic acid
* 1-Phenyl-2-propanone
* Potassium permanganate
* Pseudoephedrine (easily reduced into methamphetamine)
* 1,4-Butanediol
* Red Phosphorus
* White Phosphorus

Class B.

* Acetone
* Ethyl Ether
* Hydrochloric acid
* Methyl ethyl ketone
* Sulfuric acid
* Toluene

Lol... Blame Canada...

According to this class b thing you'd have to jail every painter out there.

[crunkgotti]

From Wikipedia: Canada: GBL is a Controlled Substance under Schedule VI of the "Controlled Drugs and Substances Act" in Canada. Schedule VI of the "Controlled Drugs and Substances Act" requires vendors to collect information regarding purchases of GBL. It is not illegal for an individual to possess GBL in Canada.

Is this bullshit or what? So possession is legal in canada?

[Rhin]

Originally Posted by crunkgotti

From Wikipedia: Canada: GBL is a Controlled Substance under Schedule VI of the "Controlled Drugs and Substances Act" in Canada. Schedule VI of the "Controlled Drugs and Substances Act" requires vendors to collect information regarding purchases of GBL. It is not illegal for an individual to possess GBL in Canada.

Is this bullshit or what? So possession is legal in canada?

So SWIM is still not 100% clear if it is schedule VI and SWIM orders it and it gets consfiscated will it just be gone forever or will the police give SWIM a knock at his door.

[Alfa]

Based upon MrG's post it is clear that the Canadian government announceed that they would add GBL and 1,4BDO to schedule IV. Based upon the wikipedia quote from aionsan it seems that 1,4 BDO is added to schedule IV. I doubt that the wikipedia quote is 100% reliable though, because I am pretty sure that the Canadian government would not schedule 1,4 BDO, without scheduling GHB and GBL.

Wikipedia is handy at times, but posts like this make me wonder. Often people will post wikipedia quotes without checking the authorative source of information that has the real info. Wikipedia is little more than an information forum.

What is needed in this this thread is a quote from a Canadian government website that has the schedule IV online. I know it exists because I have already posted it on in the Law & Order forum.

[MrG]

Actually it is schedule VI not IV.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowFullDoc/cs/C-38.8//20090623/en


SCHEDULE VI
(Sections 2, 6, 55 and 60)
PART 1

CLASS A PRECURSORS


18.
Gamma-butyrolactone (dihydro-2(3H)-furanone)
19.
1,4-butanediol





Importing and exporting
6. (1) Except as authorized under the regulations, no person shall import into Canada or export from Canada a substance included in Schedule I, II, III, IV, V or VI.

Punishment
(3) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) </SPAN>

(a) where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule I or II, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life;

(b) where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule III or VI,

(i) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years, or

(ii) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding eighteen months