Combinations - amphetamine+mdma

[bongripa]

Swims been playing around with this pretty well much all summer. he finds it to be his personal favorite combo for his areas seemingly endless stream of all night summer parties.
Amphetamine+mdma seems to banish the come down from the mdma. He used to be really retiscent to take mdma often cos of its serotonin depleting qualities & hated the empty feeling when it was wearing off. Candyflipping is an option but too 'relaxing' for a hectic party. Swim expected harsher after-effects of this combo, but they don't seem to be appearing.
Last saturday he took 2 oral doses of around 200mg speed 2h apart (average UK street quality) and a 150mg dose of mdma a bit later. After a very active dancy techno n' psy party he carried on for around 20 hours afterwards, shopping, hunting for another party... Tidied up with a big meal, 5htp & l-tyrosine. Then slept for about 12 hours. The following day got back down to work with no real feeling of badness (far less than if i had been boozing all weekend.)
There must be some badness, what do SWIY reckon? Will his tiny brain fry in its head? What's the best thing to do/eat to limit damage? Swim always eats alot of calories when partying, which helps alot.
He doesn't do anything regularly & keeps substance use only to party nights...

[scottaaaay]

sounds like your doing okay to SWIM, doesn't seem like too much of either substance,
although may be good speed if its doing the trick with 1/5th of a gram and leaving SWIY with little after effects.

Speed tends to make SWIMs muscles cramp up during the end tail, keeping SWIM from do anything but worry til its over!

Shame! SWIM used to like speed!

[candy_kid]

more dopamine increases neurotoxicity caused by oxidization after mdma wears off- so in that respect its likely worse to use amphetamines with it, which themselves increase dopamine. Mind you it could be that when amphetamines wear off your brain's active supply of dopamine is decreased also, which might actually help the situation if they wear off at the same time? someone might know more in that respect than me- I definitely wouldn't take speed after mdma has worn off. Either way though some antioxidants definitely wouldn't hurt they reduce brain damage caused by speed (oxidization) on its own even

[Masa]

is E not just Amp and MD? plus some other "junk" ovc
would think mixing the 2 would be like dropping pills no?

[candy_kid]

^^ e should be pure mdma; some pills are mixed with amps and other things sadly which can increase neurotoxicity and change the beautiful high to something not quite so beautiful if anything, mixing the two would be like dropping less favourable adulterated pills

[Masa]

I know im taking this poor buggas thread off topic but…
Swim pretty much assumes that most/all have Amp and MD in them plus binders and stuff.
The last time Swim stocked his stash up he got these speckly cloves that he swears have some ket in them
Also Swim thinks some Amp in his pills is good ,keeps you going a bit longer than pure MDMA

[dutch-marshal]

i don't like that combo at all...
it's verry bad for you brain... speed + mdma hightens the neurotoxity in your brain...
really damaging...

[cyndi]

Geez swim was stupid enough to do this one time. Swim is crazy enough to try anything or maybe just crazy. Eh. Anyway, she found she couldn't even move her body this was after a lot of meth and about 200 mgs of mdma. Very stupid of swim and she wouldn't recommend anyone to do that. It was a very scary experience, she learned her lesson. So to answer swiy's question, no that combo can't be good for the body or brain.