Oral use - Cocaine Wine Drink

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Has anyone had any experience with this?
At first this combination sounds like it wouldnt be fun however SWIM told me he snorted 3/4 of a gram while drinking wine and relaxing one night in solitude. SWIM said that it brought the coke high to a whole new level. There was no anxiety or paranoia associated, only euphoria. Actually at times felt like an opiate high and a bit tired (not sleepy though). SWIM would recommend something like this. Anyone have any similar experiences? Maybee some benzo's, alcohol (any type), ambien, flexeril, adderal combination ? Just curious...

[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM has tried many of those combos. he'll start with the main one, wine and coke. Although many endulge in this combo and enjoy it, it isnt the best for your liver, the combo creates a new chemical in your body called coethylene which is much more toxic than the coke or alcohol alone. But it is a pretty enjoyable combo as long as one doesnt use too much coke which will heavily outweigh the wine. Alcohol and benzos is also a combo that is dangerous but enjoyed by many. They do potentiate each other but they are also both CNS depressants and can cause serious problems if you not careful about the doses. Star off very low if your planning any of these. Remmember you can always take more but you cant reverse an already carried out bad decision.

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SWIM knows of the liver damage aspects to all of this. This is why he takes milk thistle and dandelion 3x a day. along with other purifying herbs and vitamins. Yerba Mate tea is also good along with Goji Berries. Anyhow, the Benzo's and alcohol are one thing but the coke and alcohol are another.

[Bajeda]

Swim hasn't tried coke and wine though he has mixed coke and alcohol on occaision before.

He finds the alcohol (beer and hard liquor) tends to make him more agressive as it mixes with the coke, and he ends up fighting. One time him and a friend just started beating the shit out of each other for no reason. They were just laughing and joking and punching each other as hard as they could. Pretty stupid stuff. The combination is good for dancing but it makes swim too aggressive, which he doesn't like as he is a very gentle person when sober or under the influence of more soothing substances.


He could definitely see the wine being more a euphorant, as wine drunks are in general much calmer and laid back than getting drunk off of other substances. Still, this could be a case of one person having an experience that is totally different from what another person would have.

Having someone else corroborate this would probably convince swim to try it sometime and see if its any good. He hates the aggressive nature of coke.

[AceOvArts]

SWIM has mixed this combo many times before, thing is though it seems a bit pointless as the coke seems to nullify the alcohol buzz. Even so, SWIM will still drink and drink booze until the cola is gone and he winds up extremely drunk then finally goes to bed drunk. He wakes up with a sore nose and a sore head. Is it all worth it ? God only knows.

[FrankenChrist]

Watch out with alcohol and coke. In your liver they will combine to cocaethylene, which makes the combo more taxing on your body.

Some scientific details from here:

Cocaethylene is a psychoactive ethyl homologue of cocaine, and is formed exclusively during the coadministration of cocaine and alcohol. Not a natural alkaloid of the coca leaf, cocaethylene can be identified in the urine, blood, hair, and neurological and liver tissue samples of individuals who have consumed both cocaine and alcohol. With a pharmacologic profile similar to cocaine, it can block the dopamine transporter on dopaminergic presynaptic nerve terminals in the brain. It increases dopamine synaptic content, provoking enhanced postsynaptic receptor stimulation, resulting in euphoria, reinforcement, and self-administration. Equipotent to cocaine with regard to dopamine transporter affinity, cocaethylene appears to be far less potent than cocaine with regard to serotonin transporter binding. Lacking the serotonergic-related inhibitory mechanism, cocaethylene appears to be more euphorigenic and rewarding than cocaine. Synthesized and administered cocaethylene has a behavioral stimulation profile similar to cocaine. Cocaethylene has been shown to be less potent and equipotent to cocaine, and alcohol plus cocaine produces more stimulatory locomotor behavior in mice than either drug alone. Equipotent to cocaine with regard to primate reinforcement and self-administration, cocaethylene can substitute for cocaine in drug discrimination studies, and can produce stimulation of operant conditioning in rats. With regard to lethality, cocaethylene has been shown to be more potent than cocaine in mice and rats. The combination of cocaine and alcohol appears to exert more cardiovascular toxicity than either drug alone in humans. Alcohol appears to potentiate cocaine hepatotoxicity in both humans and mice.

[richpull]

Hey, swim wanted to know how to make a fresh batch of the old vin mariani. The only confusion about this situation is how much coke to put into the wine, swim was thinking an 8 ball but then thought thats a lot of sips (70 50mg coca sips)and then thought maybe 1.75g would be more appropriate. Also would swim have to prepare the wine or the coke specially for this preparation?

Thanks,

[Benga]

good question. swim has been trying to find out a precise recipe for Vin Mariani for years. it was supposedly made with coca leaves, but from descriptions of effects it is pretty clear that cocaine HCl was added.

no preparations necessary, but swim should be careul and start conservatively with the cocaine dosage, as it would be easy to overdose with such a mixture, oral cocaine having a slower onset and due to the stronger intoxication of simultaneous alcohol and cocaine absorption. Not only does it form cocaethylene, which has a lower LD50, but it would flood the blood stream quite fast.
it's hard to answer this question, but one thing is for sure, swiyou wouldn't want to absorb over 1gm of cocaine dissolved in alcohol rapidly...which is something that could easily happen with 1.75gm in a bottle of wine.
Be very careful, and conservative with dosage when experimenting with this.

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[richpull]

Swim figured that he'd sip on it over the course of 4-5 hours... so swim wouldn't be chuggin' it and swim'd be less likely to OD... anyone else have suggestions?

[richpull]

This is kinda a good topic, please reply with your thoughts!