waste

[st1le]

ok well if SWIM drinks his drink in halfs 15mins from each-other will it really be that much weaker than if he drank it all at once?
i searched, diddnt find answer

[fnord]

drink your drink?can you elaborate?also please use the term SWIM to avoid self incrimination.

the rules can be found here:http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/misc.php?do=cfrules

[Mint boi]

presumably this is a cwe? or codeine cough syrup? what doses is swiy talking about?

[st1le]

sorry
swim has 2 oz of codeine cough syrup with 15 mg hydrocodone(powdered mixed in)

wondering if swim drinks half then the other half 15 mins later will it waste the second half?
this question is derived specifically from this

Originally Posted by erowid

Finally, codeine itself is a cyp2d6 inhibitor. This means that taking the whole dose as quickly as possible will probably give you the biggest high (ie. its a waste to redose in 30 mins).

[fnord]

why not take it all at once?why the 15min wait?

[KBLSD]

drink it all at once man

[st1le]

well online people said to sip it slow and swi dont want to sip so swi thought maybe doing it slow had a positive effect(so swi decided to chug half and half) ,untill that theorie was opposed by that quote off erowid

swim guesses swim will just chug it but swim has accumulated another 5mg of oxy and added it to the mix. and swim not doin halfs cause the taste swi actually like it
will post experience sunday

btw can swim put pictures in his post if he posts in the experiences thread.

[st1le]

also swi figured out swour concoctions milligram counts codeine-wise, roughly of course

120mg codeine
25mg hydrocodone=150mg codeine
5mg oxycodone=35mg codeine
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120
150
035+
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305mg codeine/2 = ~152.5mg codeine each

this will be swour first recreational dose besides the 30mg swim drank(mild warmth, only affect noticed)

[fnord]

where are you getting your math at for comparing codeine to other opioids?25 mg of hydrocodone will probly cause swiy to vomit!esp combined with all the other stuff.

Again a good dose to start using codeine at is in the 30mg to 60mg range. At this dosage range the adverse effects tend to be minimal, and the pleasurable effects quite noticeable.

[I have never noticed any euphoria below 100mg, so don't give up just because two 3s don't give you a high. *However, some unfortunate individuals are allergic to codeine, and, if you have never used it before, first try a dose of around 30-60mg and see what will happen. It is dangerous to start off in the high dose range.*]

It is usually a good idea to take the drug on an empty stomach, and if nausea is experienced or you get hungry (not likely) you can have something to eat. On an empty stomach the effects will become noticeable within 15 min depending on the dose. With higher doses the effects can begin in as little as 7 min. The effects peak at around 1 hr with the experience nearing it's end at around the 3 - 4 hr point. Again with higher doses effects may last 4 - 6 hours.

The effects will usually begin with a slight sedation, and a feeling of warmth coming over you body. Muscular relaxation is also quite noticeable. The subjective effects are quite hard to describe beyond the word euphoria. The sedation associated with codeine is quite a lot less than that experienced with morphine or other stronger opiates. A strong feeling of contentment is usually also experienced. Most people enter a phase where you become quite content and tend to lose interest in their surroundings. A heavy feeling in the limbs also becomes quite noticeable. This will peak at 1hr with the effects slowly tapering off after 2hr.

[st1le]

Originally Posted by fnord

where are you getting your math at for comparing codeine to other opioids?25 mg of hydrocodone will probly cause swiy to vomit!esp combined with all the other stuff.

Again a good dose to start using codeine at is in the 30mg to 60mg range. At this dosage range the adverse effects tend to be minimal, and the pleasurable effects quite noticeable.

ok first comparison made here http://www.pharmer.org/node/3757
yes swi said "rough comparison"

25mg is gonna be 12mg hydro each person doubt that will make swime upchuck, is that what u think?why?(swim have never chucked even with 20 mg to himself)
keep in mind that this drink is being split in half thats why the 152.5 mg each is in my last post.

swim tried the 30-60 mg range lastnight and it is not satisfactory
both of swus have taken the drug medicinally so swem know for a fact that swem are not allergic, swem have been doing a lot of reading up on the drug and always research this type of thing(i.e. come here and ask questions)

[fnord]

ahh didint notice that it was being split.so once again why dont you and your friend just take your whole dose at once?it seems your over complicating something simple to me.

[st1le]

started the whole thread just to ask if it really is a waste to drink it in two doses. sorry for "over-complicating" like i said its first dose like this, so just wanted some input before i killed myself or sumthin

[SanPerro]

You have all your Cod at once, redosing in 15 ,ins is a waste
10 mins after administration, your bddy stops making the enzyme thar demethylizes(sp) codeine into morphine, and further conversion after your first dose does nor eally happen...

[st1le]

aight thanks this can be locked now

[Ethyl]

Originally Posted by SanPerro

You have all your Cod at once, redosing in 15 ,ins is a waste
10 mins after administration, your bddy stops making the enzyme thar demethylizes(sp) codeine into morphine, and further conversion after your first dose does nor eally happen...

I don't agree. Could u please add some data to that statment?

[SanPerro]

Finally, codeine itself is a cyp2d6 inhibitor. This means that taking the whole dose as quickly as possible will probably give you the biggest high (ie. its a waste to redose in 30 mins)." - Erowid (http://erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml)