Drug info - Bacopa Monnieri

[Bajeda]

Does anyone have experience with this?

There doesn't seem to be much written about it, though I haven't had time to look through the scientific literature.

[snapper]

SWIM bought some a while back and has been using it with the usual nootropic stack, and has not found it to do much of anything. However, it is part of a stack with many stronger and proven nootropics, so maybe the effects are subtle, like celastrus.

[Bajeda]

It makes it hard to judge these compounds before and even during testing alot of the time as people use them with various combination stacks and it is difficult to isolate the effects.

My Panda may try this (he heard some favourable reviews) when or just after he restarts his piracetam regimen. Will try to see if this adds anything on its own or synergistically.

[snapper]

SWIM would be curious to find out how well it works. What dose does the panda plan on ingesting sprinkled on his bamboo leaves ?

[EarnestAccord]

I took a herbal blend of Bacopa, Ginkgo and Rhodiola and it was by far the best herbal nootropic I have ever taken. I study Mathematics and I could definitively tell the difference between when I had taken my herbs and when I had not. Proofs would just materialize. And there was a definite 2-3 hour period where I was tapped into something bigger then me. Very focused. From the reading that I've done out of the three it was most likely the Gingko that was giving me the immediate experience. I've taken Gingko by itself with nothing close to these results. But I had never taken Bacopa or Rhodiola by them selves and the addition of those two was amazing. I know this is still a type of "stacking" but maybe it narrows it down a bit. Good luck. PM me for specifics.

[EarnestAccord]

SWIM took a herbal blend of Bacopa, Ginkgo and Rhodiola and it was by far the best herbal nootropic They had ever taken. SWIM studies Mathematics and could definitively tell the difference between when They had taken the herbs and when they had not. Proofs would just materialize. And there was a definite 2-3 hour period where they were tapped into something bigger then mind. Very focused. From the reading that I've done out of the three it was most likely the Gingko that was giving SWIM the immediate experience. SWIM had taken Gingko by itself with nothing close to these results. But they had never taken Bacopa or Rhodiola by them selves and the addition of those two was amazing. I know this is still a type of "stacking" but maybe it narrows it down a bit. Good luck. PM me for specifics.

[sterling77]

Swim started bacopa a couple days ago. It has increased the amount of sleep and feels very pleasant and relaxed when he takes it. It is supposed to stimulate dendrite and axon growth..and the research isn't bad. Also heard that it decreases opiate tolerance (it has a sort of opiate-feel too it).

[onzero]

Originally Posted by sterling77

Swim started bacopa a couple days ago. It has increased the amount of sleep and feels very pleasant and relaxed when he takes it. It is supposed to stimulate dendrite and axon growth..and the research isn't bad. Also heard that it decreases opiate tolerance (it has a sort of opiate-feel too it).

+1 wow, no way, swim noticed this too.

[snapper]

What dose ?

[sterling77]

300-400 mg bulk extract, an hour before bed. I'll look up the strength later.

[0utrider]

Bacopa monnieri is a perennial, creeping herb whose habitat includes wetlands and muddy shores. Common names include Water Hyssop and brahmi (note: brahmi is also the Ayurvedic name given to Centella asiatica and other herbs).

It has been used for centuries to help benefit epilepsy, memory capacity, increase concentration, and reduce stress-induced anxiety. It is listed as a nootropic, a drug that enhances cognitive ability.

Another interesting effect is dream recall: on a 225mg cap-form extract, taken twice daily, the subject will remember dreams - often starting on the 2nd night. This is not recommended for people with a high stress level, as they might remember both unpleasant dreams and downright nightmares.

Long-term memory capacity enhancement is especially evident after 4-5 days of consumption of 225mg cap-form extract, taken twice daily. After that time, attempts to recall events that occurred many years ago will be immediately successful, and very vivid. This might not be noticeable until such a recall attempt is made. The effect lasts about a week after consumption has stopped.

More rare, and requiring longer periods of consumption of the above dosage, are memory flashes of entire periods of time in the space of a few seconds (e.g. recalling the entire past year at once). There is anecdotal evidence of this happening on day 11 of consumption.

When practicing the Rebirthing western hyperventilation technique, consumption of Brahmi an hour prior to the session makes the session about 3 times deeper/stronger. If the session is proceeded by a deep massage of some sort (e.g. deep tissue massage, Thai massage), the effect is 6-20 times deeper/stronger (X8 on average) than "regular" Rebirthing.

In India, this plant has also been used traditionally to consecrate new born babies in the belief that it will open the gateway of intelligence. Recent studies suggest bacopa may improve intellectual activity.

This plant is also known as Thyme-leafed gratiola and Moneywort. Synonyms include Herpestris monnieria, Moniera euneifolia, Lysimachia monnieri, and Bacopa Monniera.

SWIM thinks it is pretty good. It is one of the few worthwhile natural nootropics, especially (to SWIM) the only one that isnt effective mostly due to its vasodilatory effects (like ginkgo or vinpocetine). A recent study confirmed this, stating that especially the bacoside B was effective.
swim found Planetary Herbals a good brand for this.
However, enough has to be taken and over quite some time. It can also produce quite lucid, yet hard to control dreams. SWIM is not someone who is a responder to everything plant-ish, actually quite the opposite. However, it is hard to describe what it does exactly, somehow there is an overall feeling over more clarity and better ability to remember things, while being calm. This is especially outstanding when compared to the -racetams, which produce a similar feeling that is for SWIM often accompanied with a little bit of restlessness, both cognitive and psychological, especially during exam time when he is prone to overdo it a bit, pushing the limit.
For swim, bacopa and the racetams, apart from vasodilators which have cognitive-improvement side-effects (oxygen, blood in the brain), these two are the best nootrics that do not produce profound (or any) side effects.

[oggy]

Swim tried this along with rhodiola rosea and was very disapointed. Swim bought them both cheap from a bulk internet shop so they might be worth trying again with good quality stuff and not from these cheap bulk stores.

[Richi]

Some crazy pot head takes 500mg Bacopa every other day, 30% extract (whatever that means). He finds it gives him a mild boost of alertness at the time of taking it.

Also, it is touted to have many health benefits, such as up regulating SOD (superoxide desmutase).