Snorting - first impressions from a Ketanoob

[Masa]

Swim has just got his hands on his 1st gram of K and thought he would put up his first impressions and also take this opportunity to ask a few quick questions
Hard to explain how it felt but was kind of like drunkenness but with more weakness/ lack of strength very much a flop on the sofa kind of feeling and less giddiness
Not as strong visuals as he was hoping for took about half a gram and got very little in that department
Also had a sick feeling in his belly but did not actually throw up
With what he has left he is going to sniff up on Sunday moin after he gets back from clubbing will have taken 3 pills + a few drinks and some bongs

My questions are

How many K-holes do you get from a gram / how many grams do you need for a K-hole?

The guy that Swim bought his K from told him it was cool if you crushed up a pill and mixed it in with equal amounts of K. How do you guys feel about this?

Also he has been told you should spit out anything you sniff back from your nose but has never read anything like this on the forums, is this just to avoid the sick feeling?

All in all Swim things K is worth spending a bit more time and money on getting to know it a bit better but is a little disappointed but it is still very early doors for him as far as this drug goes

[trip.more]

Snorting pills is bad, lots of binders and fillers (stuff swiy wouldn't want in his nose).Some ket will be in their mucus after snorting it spitting it out is wasting K.Swiy doesn't need grams of ket for a K-hole (if it's good and not cut to hell) they need milligrams.Usually 100-180mg is enough for a decent to strong hole, There is 1000mg in a gram

[schwing]

Depending on how experienced SWIY is with drugs that cause nausea as side effects, mixing pills & few drinks with that much K will more than likely make SWIY throw up his entire stomach content...

Like trip said above, if SWIY doesn't have a high tolerance to K then 1 gram should be enough for a bunch of K-holes (probably somewhere between 4-6)... With moderate dosage, Orange Donkey found that set and setting has a big influence on whether he gets the K-hole or not. Spitting out the drip is wasting the material.

If what SWIY's going for is K-hole, then SWIY shouldn't mix other drugs... Being in K-hole is very much like being in a meditative trance, and OM hates being forced to interact with others. Being in a comfortable room lying down and having the freedom to let mind wander is probably the best way to experience it.

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Good advice on usage and setting

[Masa]

Swim thought the happy content felling he gets from pills would be a good way to start the experience
Knows what orange donkey means about the sick feeling though

Perhaps Swim has misinterpreted what he has read on K-hole and that reaching it requires more than taking phat lines of K : )

He has read that its better not to force it, just let it come to you

[schwing]

Well insufflated K only takes a few minutes to kick in so donkey says that there's really no need to use something else while waiting for the effects...

And with enough K ( <400mg before high tolerance build-up) it's practically impossible to stop it from pulling SWIY in unless SWIY's continuously being bothered to talk/interact with others around him

[rocksmokinmachine]

Half a gram!! SWIY should not need anywhere near that amount. 125mg should be enough to put one into a k-hole. So technically SWIY should have has enough to fall in 8 times. I suppose it all depends on purity, which is usualy quite good considering ketamine is relatively rare outside of big cities in the UK and is usually diverted from legitimate medical supplies.

[Nature Boy]

Combining ketamine with others drugs such as ecstasy and alcohol is not recommendable unless the user has considerable experience with all three substances. Generally, mixing ketamine and alcohol is avoided due to unpleasant side effects.

In terms of spitting out what remains in the back of one's nose, this is actually a waste. To receive full effects one should swallow any of this and wash it back with water. Same way you don't spit out cocaine once it starts seeping down from the back of the nose.

[enquirewithin]

My budgerigar would be delighted to have 1g of ketamine. Sniffing K, the most you should need is 200 mg. 100mg should get one into a state where one feels euphoric and is seeing a lot of visuals, all the better if lights are low and eyes are shut. To an extent, people have to learn to 'ride the k-waves.'

Ketamine is foul to snort-- my budgerigar doesn't worry about spitting out the stuff. The best effects are from absorption through nasal membranes (swallowed it is different.) (Actually, there are better ways to take ketamine.)

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

.) (Actually, there are better ways to take ketamine.)

Indeed, intra-muscular injection

[Masa]

Swim took the rest of his gram today and then watched the 1st half of 300
got quite a bigger effect this time was for want of a better term "fucked" for about 30-45 mins then puked up in the bathroom : )
the was deffo some trippy effects but after being sick it really cleard his head out
have to say Swim is still a littel let down by the visuals, prolly less than he got from shrooms ( they where legal in scotland for 4-5 years and he got into them pretty hard )
he tells me he still wants to try more ket and that he loves this forum , the ppl here and the info that i read back to him (he is far to spaced out most of the time to get on here himself )

[podge]

Originally Posted by Masa

Swim took the rest of his gram today and then watched the 1st half of 300
got quite a bigger effect this time was for want of a better term "fucked" for about 30-45 mins then puked up in the bathroom

Avoid using the same dealer again......swiys K is mixed badly by the sound of it. With pure K after 150 mgs swiy will be transported to a new corner of the universe.....there will be no hope of trying watch a movie. Swim prefers to be lieing down for the experience.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by Masa

got quite a bigger effect this time was for want of a better term "fucked" for about 30-45 mins then puked up in the bathroom : )
the was deffo some trippy effects but after being sick it really cleard his head out
have to say Swim is still a littel let down by the visuals, prolly less than he got from shrooms ( they where legal in scotland for 4-5 years and he got into them pretty hard )

It's not necessary to puke with ketamine. If one leaves an hour or so after eating there should be no nausea (as with a general anesthetic in hospital). With reasonably pure K, visuals can be very intense, as the other posters are saying. Ketamine is not really a psychedelic and the visuals are far more detailed and all-encompassing, eyes open or closed, but dark is better with some ambient music.

300 mg of fairly pure K should knock out most people...

[schwing]

The visuals from K was quite different in nature from the psychedelics that my old neighbor's magical printer tried (aya & cactus are the two that it's tried a few times), but in some ways more profound than either. At first it was a bit disappointed as well due to lack of vibrant flying colors and moving shapes & spirits, etc, but when it moved up to higher dosage it saw the room that it was in change its shape completely. As it lay on the couch the small boring room expanded and became a great multifloored hall (like in a fancy hotel or something) and a small crack between the window frame and blinds quickly expanded to almost cover its entire visual field and reveal a gorgeous and strange night cityscape (in reality it was just a dark alleyway without much street lights, and in any case it was impossible to see anything but a line of black on the window from where it was sitting). During its deepest K-hole odyssey it was in a space where shape, mass, and sound were completely dissolved and became insignificant. A typical deep K-hole CEV now consists of floating in an enormous and truly dark chamber (enormous as in there's no end in sight) where it can see patterns and shapes send light from an untold distance...

Visuals were not as vivid as with other psychedelics, but it was quite different in nature in the first place anyway. With K OEV seem to be transformation of things in sight (e.g. carvings appearing on flat kitchen shelves), where CEV appear more like things that you imagine with your eyes closed (e.g. when sober, try to remember what an apple looks like with your eyes closed), but somehow more real. CEV also seem more conceptual than visual compared to the other substances mentioned above, for example darkness somehow becoming progressively darker or closing up. There are some color washes, etc with both OEV and CEV but those are just minor effects in comparison to other things that it gets to experience/feel and see...

[Masa]

Sorry some of the jargon went over my head there
CEV ? , OEV?

Swim says 300 did get pretty trippy but it’s very stylised to begin with (lots of slow motion and colour tints)
Swim also said the was a feeling of “being there” and it feeling more real and tangible
Tho he did add he never felt any fear (as Swim would if Swim was in a real life horrific battle)
Next time he tells me he will experiment with out having external stimulus perhaps only some music and whatever his drug addled imagination can conjuror

[rocksmokinmachine]

OEV = Open eye visuals
CEV = Closed eye visuals

[schwing]

The printer just remembered that before high tolerance buildup, it also got the feeling that what it saw on the TV felt more real somehow, lol. And it also made commercials not boring to watch

[trip.more]

If swiy did 150mg and didn't hole He shouldn't get from that person any more as their ripping him off, 1mg/1 lb should do it.Also swim likes the K drip some brands he has had are reminiscent of menthol.