Cooking "activated" cannabis? double THC?

[vantranist]

Well obvously the THC isnt being increased thats impossible, However it crossed swims mind when he read what first seemed like a Urban legand about "activating" weed.

SWIM was thinking possibly it would vaporize the other cannaboniods in the MJ leaving on THC, but that seems like it would weaken the high, not make it stronger, SWIM has no real chemistry understanding, and with the little he does this really seemed like Bs, however alot of people are claiming it works wounders. SWIM still suspects placebo and has not the bud to try it for him self.

Heres the method, its not by a chemist either but a person who is just passing the note along... sorta how all urban legands start

the only thing that makes swim start 2 listen to it is all the testimonials saying it works buy trusted friends.


No link for this one.

High, all my stoney friends I have got a possibly life changing experiment for you.
Theory;
Sinsemillia, the nice seedless herb we celebrate buy consuming, smoking, ingesting, and smoking more. Can be activated in which you increase the amount of THC ([ Tetrahydrocannabinol ]
the actual psychoactive substance which gets you blazed , that cant properly be reproduced in a lab) to double its percentage. Example a small nug of white widow, (any cannabis should work) contains about 20-25% THC, (the % is the same for any amount of the same herb) by heating a certain way for a certain amount of time you turn your 20% THC White Widow into 40% THC White Widow. How, there are many chemicals like THC in cannabis other than just THC. There are over a dozen chemicals called abinol's or something like that (yes I got a degree and yes I took chemistry but I'm not a chemist, I just know theirs a family of these chemicals look at the last part of THC the C part is what I am talking about) in the herb already, some of there abbreviations are like THCD BTHC. Something like that any way buy heating you are making a chemical reaction (there is a special chemical name for this procedure to I don't remember what it is called), in which you are cutting out the B and D from the chemical and you are left with more of the THC, the good stuff.
I have tried this and there is defiantly a difference, I am not sure if it increases potency (THC%), but defiantly there is a clearer high and one thing a lot of people have said and I agree, is It takes away the munchies.

Experiment:
1. Pre heat oven to 325 degrees f. (the temp is very important)
2. Take only enough herb for one smoke session and wrap nug in aluminum foil. Double wrap and crimp corners and sides with fingers.
3. Stick foil wrapped herb and place in middle of oven on rack
4. Cook for 5 minutes in preheated oven (around 4:30min. You will Smell cannabis)
5.take out, break up, and smoke
If done correctly you will notice a difference. You theoretically (not my theory) just doubled the potency of your weed.
Let me know if this works for you, some people only smoke this way, I swear that's what they say, they think it's a waste to smoke herb otherwise. I don't know but I have been smoking with the activated herb lately and I like it.

[Pomzazed]

Uh oh. Dont have to use such a large fonts! :P

It is half true, if baked properly. Well, at least two of the 'other' cannabinoids can change form to THC by decarboxylation reaction.
Let's call it THCA (2-tetrahydrocannabinolic acid), molecular very same to THC except having a carboxylic group attached, upon contacting to appropriate heat for some time, the carboxylic will just "go out" as carbon dioxide (decarboxylation) to form THC.

But one cannot say it "doubles" the %THC, hence the gain won;t be more than % of THCA there, (and is also varied amongs strain/crops)

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good scientific information

[FuBai]

Don't incriminate yourself. As someone keeps saying, this is not a confessional. Do not ever admit to any illegal activity.

Secondly, by cutting out the b and d are you talking about CBD or another cannabinoid?

It seems to me that heating may help increase potency in eaten products, but when you smoke it you are already combusting the chemicals at a very high tempreature anyway.

[vantranist]

SWIM didnt incriminate himself... the bold isnt his writting its a copy/paste.

[FuBai]

Originally Posted by vantranist

SWIM didnt incriminate himself... the bold isnt his writting its a copy/paste.

Ah ok. Sometimes I wish I was black just so I could use the expression "My bad" without feeling like a tit.

[Creeping Death]

What a clever idea! Yes lets apply this to something else.

If you take a playboy bunny, wrap her in foil, and put her in an oven for 5 minutes she will become two playboy bunnies. It cant fail.

[Woodman]

Originally Posted by Creeping Death

What a clever idea! Yes lets apply this to something else.

If you take a playboy bunny, wrap her in foil, and put her in an oven for 5 minutes she will become two playboy bunnies. It cant fail.

OH FUCK!!!!!!

Someone should have told me this, earlier.

I'm gonna wrap all of my $100 bills in aluminum foil and bake them just so I can double my money.

I don't have to go to work anymore.

[radiometer]

If you add some Bananadine freebase, it TRIPLES the potency. If you can get rid of the B and D from the Bananadine (thus forming Ananaine) then even a few micrograms will be so potent it could actually kill you!

[Earlocybin]

As weird as it may sound, putting the weed in the microwave for 5-10 seconds seems to increase the potency appreciably. Maybe not as effective as properly baking it first but it's a more fool proof and easy way to get more for your money.

[vantranist]

Originally Posted by Earlocybin

As weird as it may sound, putting the weed in the microwave for 5-10 seconds seems to increase the potency appreciably. Maybe not as effective as properly baking it first but it's a more fool proof and easy way to get more for your money.

SWIM has heard many other reports of this... thats why he posted this,

[radiometer]

What method of administration are you guys referring to?

Oral?

In that case, obviously the heat will be effective because most of the THC in plant material is in an inactive acid form which is only made active by heat.

This so-called "theory" doesn't mention anything about being for oral consumption, but implies that the pot is made to have increased intrinsic potency. The claim that by putting cannabis in the oven, "you turn your 20% THC White Widow into 40% THC White Widow" is utter bullshit.

[vantranist]

Originally Posted by radiometer

What method of administration are you guys referring to?

Oral?

In that case, obviously the heat will be effective because most of the THC in plant material is in an inactive acid form which is only made active by heat.

This so-called "theory" doesn't mention anything about being for oral consumption, but implies that the pot is made to have increased intrinsic potency. The claim that by putting cannabis in the oven, "you turn your 20% THC White Widow into 40% THC White Widow" is utter bullshit.

In his defense later in the "theory" he said he isnt sure wha the heck it actually does, besides makes it feel stronger, perhaps he was saying what it Felt* like it doubled the THC but without actually doing so.

This is Not for oral consumtion, as thats already stated in so many words in the starting thread.

"You theoretically (not my theory) just doubled the potency of your weed."

I believe he means it just feels Twice as strong, but I can't be sure.


Ill give you the respect I believe a Platinum Member deserves, but im gonna have to say read the whole thread before posting, its hard to help someone with a question on a method when you haven’t read the whole thing, yes there's some BULL statements but that doesn't mean it should be completely discarded, as he also states he's no chemist and this isn’t his theory who knows how much he could of messed it up in the translation.


All I know is ive received a number of reports on how this def, makes it stronger and im not sure if there's actually a reason for it besides placebo.

[Nature Boy]

What a load of cock and bull.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

What a load of cock and bull.

I agree, I think THC vapourises at a much lower temperature than other cannabinoids in the plant.

[Nagognog2]

I wouldn't trust a word this character said due to his statement: "of THC ([ Tetrahydrocannabinol ]
the actual psychoactive substance which gets you blazed , that cant properly be reproduced in a lab)"



This is patently false. THC was successfully synthesized in Isreal in 1966. It's actually quite simple - but trying to get the precursors will get your door kicked in.

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yes, will need to go door shopping for sure, after you get freed from the sider

[rocksmokinmachine]

Yes, has he ever heard of marinol, synthetic THC available on prescription in some countries?

[x cynic x]

When the lighter touches the cannabis, the THC acids are converted into THC. End of story. People put their weed in the oven so its activate when they eat it. If your going to smoke it, then congratulations, you just wasted your time.

[moose190]

Originally Posted by rocksmokinmachine

Yes, has he ever heard of marinol, synthetic THC available on prescription in some countries?

I don't mean to necro this thread, however I do have something to point out. Yes, marinol is synthetic THC. However, that's all it is. When SWIY smokes cannabis, you also take in multiple other chemicals and cannabinoids, which produce the typical 'high' SWIY is used to when you smoke. It's this interaction of different chemicals that makes smoking/consuming cannabis the effective medicinal treatment that it is, and the reason that while in theory marinol should work just as well, it doesn't.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Of course. It depends on the different ratios of cannabinoids in the plant. I was just pointing out that THC, can actually be reproduced in lab, as also mentioned by nag.

[moose190]

I think I mis-directed my reply by quoting you. My post is meant as more of a general everyone-should-know-this thing. I'd hate to see people get super excited about getting a source for marinol then being disappointed when it's not what they expected. Good to see people on the same page!

[nEone]

Riddle me this - if you're smoking this weed - how does this pre-heating differ from the heating that you get from a direct flame? At best, you're actually vaporizing the THC and risking losing it to the Oven Gods.

Any molecular changes brought on by heat would - by default - also occur when you smoke the bud normally - because you're heating that bud when you smoke it too.

Now - if the purpose is to eat the bud - then yes - you're activating the THC. Most of the time though, you're not eating bud straight - you're cooking it into butter or soemthing, and that serves to activate the bud - so it's kind of moot unless you dig pot-salad.

But if you're smoking it - then you're not doing anything by pre-heating it other than activating the placebo-receptors in your brain - which are HIGHLY suceptible to something called "ritual".

Try this: You can ALSO activate THC for smoking by chanting "THCTHCTHC it's good for me" in a monotone voice for 3 full minutes (no more, no less, this is really important) while passing the bowl from left to right around a circle of friends - pass it around three times (once per minute). Take six full deep-lung breaths before you smoke. Breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth and then take a hit. You'll get a lot higher. I know a lot of people who ONLY smoke this way - and they say anyone who doesn't is probably insane.

Ritual - it's like magic.

[radiometer]

God, would this amazingly stupid thread just die already?

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Posting on it doesnt help to kill it now does it?

[pyroarchy]

Can we get like a few peeps to verify this? SWIM might try next time she runs into some Sensi.

[robo scat]

THC->THCA

I've heard of long time smokers putting bud in the microwave for a slightly different high.

[desolated000]

id like to beleive this but i have the same problems with the theory:

1 - you heat the chemicals when you put a flame on it and
2 - thc vaporizes at high temperatures, so wouldnt heating it make it weaker?

but i heard somewhere that some of the cannabinoids can react with the thc in a way that reduces the high. i think it was on a seed selling website. all i know is the abbreviation started with a C.