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I have Oxycontin 40mg tabs and have been crushing them and mixing with around 6ml of distilled water and then boiling to dissolve ready to be injected. My question is this - once the tablet appears dissolved I filter it through cotton wool and then inject, the solution is a milky white colour. If I leave it sitting in the syringe for a while little white particles appear and settle - is this not filtered enough and binders are getting through or is this just the Oxy coming out of solution slightly? |
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Hi, What type of inject did you do? What was the result? Y. |
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Hi, I have started to use Whatman .45 filters and filtering a larger batch at a time and the solution is clear. Injections are IV and the result is superb much better than taking the tab orally. |
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Hi, and thankyou very much for the detail. If you don't mind sharing your proportions, how much (I would imagine distilled water) do you add to how many pulverised 40mg tabs and after all filtering is done how much injectable liquid are you left with, and for someone using 12 to 14 chewed tabs a day how much would be used in one hit and how long would the analgeicic effect last before you needed to do it again? Hope I'm not being a pain. BTW were you aware of generic oxycontin might be around the corner? thanks again, Y |
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First I remove the coating from around the tabs using tissue with surgical spirit on it. Oxy does not disslove well in alcohol so it is better for removing the coating which comes off easily. I do not rub to hard it does not matter if traces of the coating remain. For each 40mg tab I allow 6ml of distilled water. So if I do 10 tabs crushed up I mix with 60ml of distilled water in a sterile vial and then heat, not boil, the mixture until it has all dissolved. Then use cotton wool with a syringe to filter the mixture initially before passing through the Whatman filter so it does not clog so quickly - but often I find I need to use two for the 60ml. This is all filtered into a sterile sealed vial with a rubber stopper (multi dose vial) and then it is ready to use. I end up with about 58 ml after this so after all the filtering through the Whatman is done I get another 2ml of distilled water in a syringe and pass it through the Whatman to get the last of the solution pushed through and to give me 60ml in the vial. The final solution is always crystal clear. Assuming that you got 100% of the oxycontin to dissolve I would have 20mg / 3ml of liquid, which is the dose I like and have about three injects a day of this. The effect lasts a few hours for me but tolerence builds quickly and I up my dose. I cannot compare this with how many chewed tablets equivelent it is as I do not use the tabs orally and I guess it all depends on the individuals tolerence and size and lots of other factors. I did not know that generic Oxy was on the way but look forward to finding some!!! Hope this helps. |
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forget it and just bump the shit! if you want it more intense, then do more!!!(but not too much)peace.
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Is filtering it one time enuff? I've always thought you'd want to do it 2-3 times if your injecting pills...
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Hi, The statement that the final solution is crystal clear seems definitive although unless the last couple of filtering could be through a fine metal mesh, wouldn't you risk losing more through absorbtion into the cloth. If I intended to inject and I ended up with a completly (clear to the eye) solution, I would be confident that spyder75's process was excellent. I know that injection into a vein is most effective but what would be a secondary injection area of the body. In the buttocks? In the leg muscle? Just under the skin? Are these more effective that just chewing and swallowing? Thanks, Y. |
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There will always be some loss of the product into the cloth and other areas through the filtering process. This is why I push around a further 2ml of distilled water through the filter to minimise this. Losing some is a small price to pay for having a well filtered clean final solution and is well worth doing for the peace of mind when injecting. The loss however is only minimal. |
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I found this board searching google on this very subject. On your original question, my guess is that it is not oxycodone recrystallizing, but cellulose. I'm not familiar with using Whatman filters but I'm pretty sure that even though they can filter bacteria, they will not filter out the various excipients in the tablet if they are entirely in solution. I'm still not sure if this would work, but I believe it is possible that the best, and actually the only way to get rid of the crap from the tab is using a solvent extraction process. If anyone has done this I would really like to hear about it. I've done it with other drugs but not for injection. The only other thing I can think of to keep the junk out of your solution is instead of heating the water, use 40F water. Oxy dissolves readily in 40F, and not much else in the tab would do so. I believe that by heating you may be doing yourself unknown harm -- please read this, especially chapter 11. http://free.freespeech.org/ekomstop/...sychoactives/o xycontin.htm |
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I just read another link that said if you dissolve and heat the powdered tablet until clear, and then add a bit of ice water, it will cause the junk to come back out of solution and congeal, leaving the oxycodone dissolved in the remaining clear water. I like the sound of this, I think I've actually done it a few times by accident without realizing that's what I was doing, simply because I needed to add some water. The only alternative to solvent extraction if you care about getting the purest shot possible is to take advantage of the different melting points of the chemicals you're working with, and this added step seems to do that -- I'll be trying it pretty soon. |
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reading your takes on pure injections has really helped me rethink my own rigging skills thanks |
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I'm sorry, maybe this is because I'm a huge newbie, but I'm not seeing
the advantage to filtering and injecting oxys? The only thing I can think of is probably that it has a more immediate effect, in maybe two minutes or so. Is there some other benefit? If not, this just doesn't seem worthwhile. |
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the particles in the needle is usually particles from the cotton you used to filter the OC's.
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I like injecting ywo 40 mg ocs that should do any one just fine. Has anyone checked our drug buyers.com>>> Im looking to purchace more 20 mg or 40 mg
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For one, Immunity, injecting does not hit in two minutes it hits you in two sconds! also you can do5 x less the amount it takes you to get high when snorting. you obviously are a newbie. also to someone question above, if you are using a needle you need to go mainline, (IV injection) as skin popping and muscle popping get you only as high as eating it on an empty stomach |
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does any one know what the comparisin doses between oxy's and heroin?? I was a heroin addict but have not done it in awhile I know I could do a bag and be ok but how much oxy would I need especially since I want to bang it??? Does anyone know????
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ONce again brandon is right, injecting hits you within seconds not minutes whoever posted that has obvoisly never mainlined , not that bad so speak but I perfer mainline.As for the white in the syringe don't worry about it your body breaks down any opiate into morphine or in oxy's breaks it down to thebaine a alkaloid from the poppy plant as long as it enters the blood system you'll get high I assure you.....As for the ? from godismdma if you inject smack(herion) I would probably start with a forty mg oxy if you do a lot of herion go for the 80. peace Edited by: chickenhawk
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i agree 40, snorted even should do the trick, but there ain;t nothing like booting it.
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Dont quote me on this but I'm pretty sure I read on erowid that oxy's dont break down into morphine...also is it worth the trouble of cooking the pills down.....I keep reading that some say u get back a good yield and others say its almost imposible to get any thing back because of all the shit they put in it stricktly for that reason??? Brandon it sounds like u have been successful in pulling it off how did u do it...any suggestions |
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NO, they break down into thebaine and alkaliod from the same plant as morphine, herion breaks down into morphine.Oxy's are fine to cook there generic brothers by teva are not.
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dude i have never tried it, i'm not real keen on shooting any kind of pill.
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Wow, lots of medical newbies, but its cool. Firstly, mainlining any drug by passes teh liver which filters ALL substances nirmally absorbed after taken orally, so you automaticallly get over 70% of the drug into the system that normally is absorbed in the liver. Thats hy you get a rush, you get more drug, and alot faster. The particales you see are the binders used to make the pill mass, if you can see it, its VERY course and shooting this shit leads to heart infections and lung abcesses. Uses cotton balls in 18 or 16 ga needles, then work you way into a 5 micron (uM) filter, then a .45 micron (uM) then a .22uM (micron) filter which will FILTER out BACTERIA it is so fine, make that final filter into a sterile syringe and you are getting hospital grade drugs, and can do that all day long without fear of side effect, JUST DONT HIT AN ARTERY FOR goodness sake, but thats another issue. Good luck to all! PM me with other medical questions! |
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wow, what a great thread...
So could someone (gremlin182, or any vet) post the ENTIRE proceedure, from taking the 40mg tab out too pulling the first dose for IV preparing a brand name 40mg Oxy? |
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damn, i cant edit my posts....i was going to add to my post above....
or post a link to a previous thread explaining it. |
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