Drug info - DMAE Thread

[BigDonJuan73]

Has Swiy ever thought of adding this to their smart drugs stack? DMAE (Dimethylaminoethanol) is found in nearly every health store. DMAE is a fairly strong antioxidant & also a precursor of Acetycholine, a neurotransmitter. Acetycholine is responsible for the feelings of well being and relaxation. DMAE is said to be helpful in boosting memory and learning ability as well with time. Has SWIY ever tried DMAE?

[Broshious]

SWIM has taken DMAE, and he thinks for the first few days that it gave him added energy but it was hard to be sure.

[El Calico Loco]

Swim has some experience with DMAE. He found that it did improve his memory considerably - he would be sitting at work in a daze and suddenly remember a minor anecdote from the third grade that he hadn't thought about in twenty years. It's amazing in that respect.

DMAE can make one irritable, if one is susceptible. It can raise blood pressure in those who are naturally choleric. Other than that, it seems to be a good chemical.

One friend of Swim's even reported long-term positive effects - after two weeks or so of taking daily doses, a blind spot in his eye (caused by a migraine years before) went away, even after he stopped taking the nootropic.


ECL

[robertone]

Especial demented has profit from DHAE for their memory function, for this reason older people should take it as supplement. For both younger and older people magnesium taurate is strongly recommandable for memory and a dozen other reasons. Just google a bit.

[Bajeda]

I just read up on DMAE on erowid and it seems interesting. Will look for some scientific literature on it later, but in the meantime, does anyone else have experience with dimethylaminoethanol? Especially with taking it regularly? Would also be nice to get some anecdotal reports on use of DMAE in conjunction with other nootropics.

[El Calico Loco]

Swim has used DMAE and piracetam in conjunction. They seem to have a synergistic effect. He's even felt his mind sped up to the point that music sounded slower than usual, if you can believe that.

(If your job is boring, he recommends not taking it before going to work. It makes the day go by all that much more slowly.)

This combination also helps him remember far more of his high-dose DXM trips. Piracetam has made him get very drunk very quickly without intending to; It seems to take away some of his well-earned tolerance to bourbon.

He has also taken aniracetam, though not in conjunction with others. Aniracetam is more powerful than piracetam - after a few days, it felt almost like amphetamines.

One thing to note with nootropics is that, in making your brain work faster, they also make it consume more fuel. One should eat plenty of eggs and/or take choline supplements (lecithin works great) to avoid a crash.


ECL

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[BigDonJuan73]

SWIM has an order in for piracetam and already picked up some DMAE and is using 500 mg a day, SWIM ordered 800 mg capsules, does this sound within the recommended daily dose?

[Broshious]

Originally Posted by Tech N9ne

SWIM has an order in for piracetam and already picked up some DMAE and is using 500 mg a day, SWIM ordered 800 mg capsules, does this sound within the recommended daily dose?

SWIM believes the typically daily dose of Piracetam is 1600-2400mg

[El Calico Loco]

Swim just takes 1/4tsp of each powder; I think that's 800mg piracetam and 600mg of DMAE, or something like that. One can get a year's supply of good quality stuff for like five or ten bucks online. By comparison, places like Whole Foods and GNC charge an arm and a leg for a handful of pills.

I'd offer suggestions, but I think that would qualify as discussing sources even though the stuff is legal.

(For now, anyway. I'm sure the day will come when one needs a doctor's permission to buy vitamin C. All it takes is one kid dying from taking 100g of it because he heard it would get him high.)


ECL
(Just google for bulk nutritional supplements and read reviews. There's a few great ones.)

[BigDonJuan73]

SWIM just found a supply of 250 grams of piracetam powder for 15.95 with shipping included, if i did the math right this supply will last me 312 days at 800 mg of piracetam a day. thanks for that tip on the bulk search SWIECL

[BigDonJuan73]

it seems choline should be taken with it, would taking DMAE work the same way as that?

[lulz]

Originally Posted by Tech N9ne

it seems choline should be taken with it, would taking DMAE work the same way as that?

DMAE and choline should have a synergistic effect when taken together. DMAE slows down choline metabolism in the body, so that when it gets circulated up into the brain it can be metabolised into acetylcholine. This is important because if choline gets metabolised in the body, it won't be able to pass through the blood-brain-barrier, and therefore won't get into the brain where it's needed for nootropic effects.

[BigDonJuan73]

Thanks for clearing that up, SWIL. Very informative for SWIM. Now if my dog had some piracetam in powder, should he put it in capsules or mix it with something and ingest it as a liquid?

[lulz]

I think someone more informed might be better to answer that question.

It would probably depend on the chemical makeup of your digestive system. Most people seem to benefit most from capsules, but SWIM always prefers dropping most substances straight onto his tongue and washing it down with water. But SWIM thinks his biology is a bit unusual, his digestive system may not be very acidic, which would possibly explain his habits, but this is just a guess. Though it does explain his heightened reactions to amphetamine and MDMA, but still, just educated guesses...

I'd say SWIY should try capsules first for a week or so, and if he's not feeling it significantly, try dropping the stuff directly into your mouth and washing it down immediately with a drink. SWIM has been taking piracetam in the form of UCB Nootropil tablets recently, and the last time he tried powder was literally a few years ago, so he can't remember the taste.

But if SWIY tries both methods, one will work better than the other. Common sense says start with capsules and see how it goes. Good luck!

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by lulz

I'd say SWIY should try capsules first for a week or so, and if he's not feeling it significantly, try dropping the stuff directly into your mouth and washing it down immediately with a drink. SWIM has been taking piracetam in the form of UCB Nootropil tablets recently, and the last time he tried powder was literally a few years ago, so he can't remember the taste.

If swiy remembered the taste he wouldn't be suggesting dropping Piracetam straight into one's mouth. The taste is horrible.

My Panda doesn't use caps, he puts whatever amount of piracetam into a cup and mixes with some Mountain Dew or an energy drink or even apple cider. It has tasted bad on occasion, but he has it to the point now where he has a feel for what will cover up the taste of piracetam and what won't. This is his preferred method of ingesting it.

[BigDonJuan73]

SWIM would like to thank the last two posters, SWIM assumed the powder would be nearly unflavored, good thing SWIM won't learn the hard way. SWIM will probably mix it with his morning protein shake or a glass of juice or something. Thanks for the information.

[El Calico Loco]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that part...

Piracetam is fairly bitter, but Swim assures me that it's nowhere near as foul as, say, DXM. Orange juice covers the taste up nicely.

DMAE, on the other hand, isn't bad. Kinda tangy.


ECL

[Bajeda]

Just noticing that dose hasn't been discussed much here.

How much DMAE do your lab pets take generally, and what differences in effects can a variation in dose create?

Also, how often do your pets use DMAE? Is it used regularly as part of a nootropic stack, or is it used selectively in particular combinations or for specific purposes?

[BigDonJuan73]

When it comes to DMAE SWIM uses 500 mg a day, one before SWIM'S morning classes and one before SWIM'S afternoon classes, SWIM takes them with a good amount of water, but not to much as to make SWIM have to piss. Seems to compliment the piracetam, which SWIM takes in the morning before driving to school

[BigDonJuan73]

one before and after means they are 250 mg a piece, forgot to mention

[kyleguy]

Are there any studies/journal articles of DMAE being used with either rats or humans in specifics to find if it really helps improve cognitive function? SWIM can't seem to find anything in either the drugs archive or the forums for that matter. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

[dr ACE]

found this link on the entrez/pubmed site;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

you could try more searches on that site