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Old 22-08-2007, 22:38
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Question Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

SWIM recently acquired 4 Morphine Sulfate 15mg tablets (Roxanol) by Roxane Labs.

The only opiate SWIM has had in the past few months, were 30mg of Hydrocodone two days ago. In the past when SWIM used to get hydrocodone easily, he would take a much higher dosage, but had not been able to acquire any until then.

Other than hydrocodone, SWIM has smoked opium once, and taken 120mg of Codeine on multiple occasions. SWIM finds he quite enjoys opiates, he just doesn't get the opportunity to indulge in them often. SWIM is a daily cannabis smoker.

SWIM weights 125 lbs and is 5'11". Because the only opiates SWIM had had in his body in the past few months were 30mg of hydrocodone two days ago (that he very much enjoyed), he is assuming he doesn't have much of a tolerance, and doesn't want to OD on this Morphine Sulfate 15mg that he just acquired.

Will SWIM be alright taking one 15mg tablet? Or given my low-tolerance is that too much? SWIM would like to feel pain-free, euphoric, and functional enough to smoke cannabis. SWIM enjoys nothing more than the synergy between opiates and cannabis.

SWIM wants to make sure he's not about kill himself, before he takes a pill.

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Old 22-08-2007, 23:53
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

15 mg's is a safe dose for even the virgin opiate user. swim's first drug ever taken was 100 mg's of morphine sulfate. Morphines relatively safe to mix with canabis however be wary of mixing with alcohol, cocaine, meth or any other downers or excessive CNS stimulants.

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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

Well exactly one hour ago, I took one of the pills with a glass of ice water. So far, I'm not impressed. The other day I was doing a lot of yard work, so my muscles were slightly burning from the lifting. Not painful, but noticeable when I stretch. When I do 30mg of hydrocodone, all my pain goes a way and within an hour, I am on the couch having C-E-V.

My muscles are still burning. I still have a slight headache that I've had all day. I'm high from the marijuana I smoked, but other than that, nothing else. WTF? Is it too soon to take another pill? Should I wait another hour to see if the effects come on? Or should I not waste my time?
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

So SWIM would be safe re-dosing making it a total of 30mg of consumed morphine sulfate? SWIM was told these are the instant release kind and was hoping he'd at least have pain relief if not any pleasant "recreational" effects. Especially after smoking cannabis as SWIM finds that it normally enhances the opiate effect.
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

A half hour ago, which was 1 1/2 hours after SWIM ingested the first pill, he decided to take another, as he was still experiencing pain, and was feeling no effects what so ever. Now, a half hour later, things have rarely changed. SWIM does however feel relaxed, and somewhat tired. SWIM has also been smoking cannabis, so that could be the cause.

The only opiate effect that SWIM feels he is experiencing is slight respiratory depression. Nothing else. SWIM also feels like if he laid down in bed, he could probably fall asleep very fast, but he knows that it is more likely attributed to the cannabis he smoked.

SWIM is quite sad that he is still experiencing pain. SWIM feels he enjoys hydrocodone more, as by now he would be pain free and extremely high. SWIM is wondering if he can take another 15mg morphine sulfate pill in a half hour, which would make it 2 1/2 hours since the first pill was ingested. That would make it a total of 45mg ingested morphine sulfate. Is that safe? Or will it just increase my respiratory depression, and not relieve me of my pain and (other than MJ) soberness?
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

I can't find the edit function. The above statement was supposed to have quotation marks, and at the end, was supposed to say: -SWIM, as it's a statement from SWIM and not me, that I was simply posting for SWIM.
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

wait it out, morphine sometimes takes a while to kick in fully however it lasts much longer then hydrocodone. Give it a good 2 hours or so, but redosing wont be to harmful at that dose. Also remember to use "swim" and avoid self incrimination.
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

SWIM must also note that 2 hours after ingesting the first 15mg morphine sulfate tab, and 1/2 hour after ingesting the second, and looking in the mirror, he notices very very mild miosis. Usually, SWIMS puplis get extremely small on hydrocodone and codeine very quickly. SWIM's wondering if it is normal for it to be taking so long to be experiencing effects. Or if SWIM is somehow immune to morphine? SWIM also needs to know if taking another (making it a total of 45mg of ingested morphine sulfate) will "do the trick"?
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

3 hours taking the first pill, and 1 1/2 hours taking the second pill, SWIM is feeling relaxed, with some respiratory depression. He is not feeling "high" or "fucked up" like he usually feels from Vicodin. Perhaps he didn't take enough. But, SWIM just started feeing these effects within the last 20 minutes. How long will SWIM be feeling the effects?

SWIM is trying to figure out how much stronger (if at all) the effects will get, (ie when does it peak) to decide whether or not he should take his last pill. SWIM only has one left, as he originally had 4, took 2, and gave one to a friend for some cannabis.

SWIM doubts taking one on it's own will be any good, so he thinks he should take it now, but doesn't want to over-do it. If SWIM takes another it would be a total of 45mg in a three hour period.

SWIM does not know if he is experiencing any closed eye visuals like he does on vicodin, because he hasn't laid down and closed his eyes yet. He has been on his computer, and before that, watching TV.

SWIM thinks he will lay down while watching TV and rest his eyes, to see if he notices any effects. He also plans on taking the last pill within the hour, if he gets a response that lets him know it's safe.

SWIM also would like to know if he will be experiencing any negative withdrawal symptoms in the days to follow. He could get more, but prefers to stay a recreational user, and not get addicted.

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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

SWIM would also like to note that when looking in the mirror a few minutes he noticed he is finally experiencing miosis, which lets him know he is under the influence of an opiate. He also feels slight "butteflies" in his stomach, but is not nervous, or paranoid, which is what usually accompanies "butterflies".

SWIM is going to lay down now, but will return in 15-30 minutes, in hopes of finding out if taking a third 15mg pill is safe, and how long he should expect to be feeling the effects from the morphine.
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

While SWIM was laying on his couch watching CSI:Miami he realized he is becoming high from the Morphine. He smoked a one-hitter of good cannabis while laying down, and as he was doing that, he began to feel the traditional opiate high coming on. SWIM feels "warm and fuzzy" and the "hug from the inside".

SWIM is very unsure whether to take the third pill. It is his last pill. He feels it would do nothing by itself on another day, but he doesn't want to over-do it tonight, and OD or be very uncomfortable, etc... "too high".

Will the effects keep increasing from the 30mg that SWIM has ingested? It's 9:41 pm now. He took his first 15mg pill at 6:00pm and at 7:30 took his second. He began to feel the effects around 9:30pm. He is wondering if the effects are just beginning and will keep increasing, or if it's safe to go ahead and take his last pill? He is wondering how late in night he will be feeling the effects?

SWIM would please like some answers fast, as he doesn't want the effects from the 30mg I've taken to go away, and then take 15mg which would do nothing. He wants to have 45mg in his system, if it's alright.
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

SWIM took another 15mg tab at 10:00pm last night, 2 1/2 hours after taking his second. So, SWIM had a total of 45mg last night.

SWIMs friend came over around 10:05, and SWIM was in an extremely talkative and good mood. Similar to how SWIM gets when he is on cocaine, without the stimulant effects, although he felt very alert and awake, while talking to his friend.

During the time when SWIMs friend was over, they smoked cannabis. SWIM still wasn't feeling traditional "opiate" effects unless he stopped talking, and just sat in his couch and chilled while watching TV. Then SWIM became very relaxed. At 12:00am SWIM noticed that he was feeling mildly fucked up. Like he gets from Vicodin, but not nearly as intense, but enough to notice it. At 1:00am SWIMs friend left, so SWIM decided to go to bed, to enjoy the effects as he drifted off to sleep.

SWIM noticed the traditional CEV/lucid dreaming, but quickly fell asleep. He woke up 12 hours later, without any ill effects such as wanting to vomit.

SWIM is glad he played it safe last night ,as it was his first experience with morphine and did not know what to expect. SWIM now realizes he could probably have taken all 3 of the pills at once, and should have, to get the effect he desired. But all in all, SWIM had a nice evening.

SWIM is wondering if he will get addicted, or suffer withdrawal effects if he ingests 60mg of Morphine Sulfate (4 pills) all at once tonight. He now knows what to expect, and thinks taking them all at once will make a more intense high, rather than a mild high spread throughout the night. What do you guys thinks?
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Re: Morphine Sulfate Tolerance Question

SWIM must also note, that while last night he was still experiencing the pain in his muscles, he woke up and all of his pain was gone, and he didn't have the headache that he normally wakes up from, from being weened off of his anti-depressants.
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