does swim's pods contain active alkaloids?

[JaWill88]

swim has poppys growing all around his house. swim lives in washington. the pods look like the other papaver somniferums swim has seen. when dried out they have little specks of brown goo on them that looks like opium and they have the crowns on them. when the plant is live they are a couple feet tall and the flowers are pink to red and are really bushy and frilly. swim knows they are not the orientale or california. swim is wondering if these have alkaloids for sure or if there are poppys that look like the good ones but don't have alkaloids. it is swims birthday tomorrow and would like to enjoy himself so any information would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

[ironmics]

Odd that they are followering right now. The only options with that description are orientale or somniferum, Orientals are usually pink, purple, or red, with black in the middle. Easiest way to ID somni's is that their leaves will be a very pale green and look kinda like lettuce. Orientals will be a much darker green.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

swim has poppys growing all around his house. swim lives in washington. the pods look like the other papaver somniferums swim has seen. when dried out they have little specks of brown goo on them that looks like opium and they have the crowns on them. when the plant is live they are a couple feet tall and the flowers are pink to red and are really bushy and frilly. swim knows they are not the orientale or california. swim is wondering if these have alkaloids for sure or if there are poppys that look like the good ones but don't have alkaloids. it is swims birthday tomorrow and would like to enjoy himself so any information would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

most poppy heads will sort of look like Papaver S. also there are MANY varieties and sub-species in the Papver S genus. The best way to find out is to actually test it (if ya know what i mean, but as always be careful). i do agree with the previous post that it may also be an orientale variety, the orientale is a smaller plant than the Papaver S species IN GENERAL (their size will also depend on how much sun/water/type of soil/nutrients it has access to) generally the orientale species is around 2 feet tall in general, most Papaver S species are usually at least a foot taller (with all that i have seen growing in previous years the Papaver S is usually around 3 to 4 foot tall in optimum conditions, or at least the strains i have seen are)

the best way to actually find out if it is, is to either make poppy tea from it (using the above mentioned caution) or to make the cooked form of opium (smoking opium) that i have mentioned in previous threads. You can google for all of this information there are hundreds of pages out there that will tell you exactly how to do all of this.

As far as the flower colors go, i am not sure how helpful this will be either because what you have described occurs in both the somniferum and orientale species. the MAJORITY of the time the orientale species tend to have a very dark inner color to the flower petals, but they can also have a uniform color in some purpose bred sub-species. the MAJORITY of the time Papaver S will be one of three sub-species that seem to be very common almost anywhere it is found. one is a very purple-blue flower, another has a pink to red flower (the colors do not stay uniform within the same group usually) and a white flowered variety which people usually refer to as "china white" variety or "afghani white" variety.

What you have also described seems to be what they call a semi-double, this means that the petals of the flower head are not singular but almost layered and usually very frilly, like paper when you fold it alot. Full doubles have a very full flower head, almost hemispherical.

anyhoo i hope this has some way been of help to you, cheers.

[JaWill88]

yes thank you for the replies. SWIM really appreciates it. the pods are actually more like 3-4 feet but some are only 2 feet but those were in a really shaded area and never got much sun. SWIM is almost sure that they are Papaver S's. oh yeah the poppies have a light green to yellow stalk and leaves. but one more question if anyone can help and that is does anyone know if all papaver s's have the same alkaloid content? if not does anyone know how much the ones around SWIM's house contain?

[keats]

All papavers do not have the same alkaloid content, nor could SWIM (or anyone else on this forum) tell you what content your particular poppird have. SWIM grew up in washington and is skeptical the poppies you're describing are sominiferum, though he could be wrong. Either way if you wish to test them via tea be sure to follow samurai's advice and do it CAREFULLY. Because of the extremely unpredictable nature of strength and fact you've never done this before there's no way of predicting how much (if any) opiates will be found in the poppies, and as a result OD is entirely too easy.

[JaWill88]

Yeah SWIM has been a heroin addict for a few years now but is on suboxone now and the withdrawls are pretty bad but what bothers SWIM the most is how god damn long they are. SWIM's suboxone dose is 32mg a day which appearantly is close to equivelant of 400-500 mg of morphine a day but now SWIM needs to figure out how many pods to take a day to stay somewhat well. SWIM decided he doesn't really want to get high he just wants to take enough tea to stay well and do that for 5-6 days to get through the worst of the sickness. any suggestions? oh yeah i guess someone SWIM knows took some and definately got high.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

Yeah SWIM has been a heroin addict for a few years now but is on suboxone now and the withdrawls are pretty bad but what bothers SWIM the most is how god damn long they are. SWIM's suboxone dose is 32mg a day which appearantly is close to equivelant of 400-500 mg of morphine a day but now SWIM needs to figure out how many pods to take a day to stay somewhat well. SWIM decided he doesn't really want to get high he just wants to take enough tea to stay well and do that for 5-6 days to get through the worst of the sickness. any suggestions? oh yeah i guess someone SWIM knows took some and definately got high.

sorry bro but one could only find out how much to take to stave off sickness by trial and error because (as our other friend was saying) the unpredictable potency within the papaver S varieties. No papaver S varieties have a consistent alkaloid content. Even within the same crop / batch the alkaloid contents of each poppy will be different, but if you need a bit of a guide then the actual "morphine" content of papaver S ranges anywhere from 1% to 20% but is typically in the 7% to 15% range with most stablised strains which are actually used for making comercial grade opium (tassies, persians, asians etc etc)

hope this has been of some help. cheers.

[JaWill88]

thank you

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

thank you

you are very welcome, to share knowledge is the best HIGH of all in SWIM's opinion. cheers.