Codeine Phosphate, Help required :-)

[Sumorogue]

Hey everyone.

SWIM recently told me that he would like to venture into the Opiate world, so, he ventured forth to his parents medicinal cabinet, the only thing he could find was a pack of pills, which said "Codeine Phosphate, 30mg".

SWIM was wondering, roughly how many pills should he take, he has no opiate tolerance and is looking for a decent experience.

SWIM was also wondering, would it be possible to crush up the pills, and snort them, as this is something SWIM would like to try .

SWIM says thank you to everyone!

[Mint boi]

With no opiate tolerance try maybe 3 pills the first time, provided they just have codeine in them, best start of low! swim wouldn't snort them it wpuld hurt like a mother fucker.

[Sumorogue]

Thank SWIY for the help

Also, would snorting create any negative effects?

[Ale]

Just eat them if you have a "ZERO tolerance" two of them might even be enough IMO.

[Ale]

Oh..by the way..don't they contain any paracetamol?Just plain Codeine?

[Sumorogue]

Originally Posted by Ale

Oh..by the way..don't they contain any paracetamol?Just plain Codeine?

SWIM is not 100% as there isnt a box, only the packet, however he searched the exact text on google and apparently they only contain Codeine and Phosphate.

Thanks everyone for the help though !

[Ale]

Originally Posted by Sumorogue

SWIM is not 100% as there isnt a box, only the packet, however he searched the exact text on google and apparently they only contain Codeine and Phosphate.

Thanks everyone for the help though !

The packet?You mean..the blister?

[Mint boi]

well snorting would hurt, snorting crushed up pills isnt a good idea anyway, and codeine is metabolized in the liver through first pass metabolism swim thinks so its more effective orally, may not even be very effective at all if its snorted, but swim doesnt know!

[Mint boi]

well if they are 30mg pills they wont be nearly as big as 500mg pills with paracetamol/acetaminophen in them

[Sumorogue]

Let me look again, 2 minutes :P ... Oki, it says APS on the Alluminium Foil.

[Sumorogue]

Okay great, cheers mate I'll tell SWIM all that information =P

[SoCalTom]

is codeinum phosphate the same as codeinum phosphurous?

[Pondlife]

I've seen Codeine Phosphate tablets referred to as "Codeinum Phosphoricum", perhaps that's the name that you've seen? If so, my understanding is that they are just codeine phosphate.

The "codeinum phosphoricum" name looks Latin, but doesn't seem to make any sense to me: "codeinum" looks like the accusative singular form of a second declension noun, and "phosphoricum" looks like the genitive plural for a third declension, which together is senseless. Oh well, probably says more about my Latin ability than anything else.

[Ale]

Originally Posted by pondlife

I've seen Codeine Phosphate tablets referred to as "Codeinum Phosphoricum", perhaps that's the name that you've seen? If so, my understanding is that they are just codeine phosphate.

The "codeinum phosphoricum" name looks Latin, but doesn't seem to make any sense to me: "codeinum" looks like the accusative singular form of a second declension noun, and "phosphoricum" looks like the genitive plural for a third declension, which together is senseless. Oh well, probably says more about my Latin ability than anything else.

Codeinum:2nd declension noun,neutral form,nominative.
Phosphoricus/phosphorica/phosphoricum:as an adjective referred to the noun Codeinum it has to make agree with the noun so another neutral nominative.
That's it.
You just didn't take into consideration the 2nd declension neutral form which nominative ends in -um instead of -us.
Now it DOES make sense doesn't it?

[Pondlife]

Originally Posted by Ale

Codeinum:2nd declension noun,neutral form,nominative.
Phosphoricus/phosphorica/phosphoricum:as an adjective referred to the noun Codeinum it has to make agree with the noun so another neutral nominative.
That's it.
You just didn't take into consideration the 2nd declension neutral form which nominative ends in -um instead of -us.
Now it DOES make sense doesn't it?

Thanks, that does make sense now. As you said, I'd not thought about the 2nd declension neuter form.

[Ale]

Originally Posted by pondlife

Thanks, that does make sense now. As you said, I'd not thought about the 2nd declension neuter form.

No prob man

[SoCalTom]

I was going to replace my 5/500 vicodin with tramadol 50, are they at all comparable? Or would Cod Phos 30 or 50 be a better replacement?

[SuprSonik]

SWIM would say tramadol is more effective for pain relief than codeine, but codeine is a bit more enjoyable as a high. This could be offset by the fact that tramadol lasts significantly longer, though. Tramadol also takes longer to come up on than codeine in SWIM's experience, so if you need pain relief quick, codeine is better.

[SoCalTom]

thx I appreciate it. I really want the vic's but dr cut me off - bastard

[SoCalTom]

codine phosphate is cII isn't it? And that seems rather ez as well

[Ale]

Originally Posted by SoCalTom

codine phosphate is cII isn't it? And that seems rather ez as well

No necessarily.It's considered a C II only in its pure form (which you hardly ever get to put your hands on) ..whilst..when combined with paracetamol and possibly Caffeine it's considered a C III (just like Hydro) just make some googling..it's easy

[Ale]

Actually as for Hydro...the rule goes like this..roducts which contain less than 15 mg hydrocodone per dosage unit are Schedule III in the United States.

[Ale]

You should know that If that's where you live..I personally wouldn't have known myself..I just made a research..I'm not even from the states.