Experiences - Diphenhydramine Not Working/No Effects

[natevines]

That's real interesting raw edge. Swim has read a lot of posts on this forum and come to the conclusion that this drug acts completely randomly, irrespective of dose...
Swim's 600 mg dose caused minor open-eye hallucinations, but swim read that on diph trips the user can't distinguish between hallucinations and reality, but this wasn't the case for swim...
The trip wasn't exactly pleasant and the visuals reminded swim of shrooms (i.e, objects looking 'wavy', objects appearing to grow and shrink, etc).

[roofle]

A friend of mine is fairly unexperienced with diphenhydramine and just tried it one week ago. The first dose he tried was 650mg, the person he was with took nothing. After 2 hours he started to get some minor effects like being drowsy, and feeling heavy and being dumb as a dog. However he had NO hallucinations, not even audio. So the day after he decided to try it again, this time 800mg. Same effect, drowsy and heavy, nothing more. And yesterday he tried 1200mg thinking "what the hell", still NO hallucinations and no other effects than feeling heavy and being a bit slower than usual. So the question is, how come he can't seem to hallucinate with diphenhydramine? He also tells me he has tried some other delirants, also with no effect. Same with DXM; which gives him a slight headache and mild euphoria.

Also; Is it dangerous to heighten the dose considerably, or is the damage already done. ^^

[jok3r]

Swim weighs 130 lbs and took 10 benadryls each with 15 milligrams of deniphedrinasjhgdfag;dfa in it. Swim started to see lights being blocked out... clouds of smoke that would sit in mid air... then again this was also swims first time.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

1200mg?That is alot!It is hard to believe anyone could take a dose that high and not get anything out of it.Diphenhydramine is certainly not a mild substance,it is one that should be used with great care.Taking this stuff to extremes will eventually result in disaster.

[roofle]

While he enjoys being stupid, heavy, feeling sick in general and think only that is worth it; he really wants the hallucinations. He decided to wait a couple days and try it again later. Let's hope he'll get results, or he will have to find something else. =/

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swiy enjoys feeling sick?Why would anyone enjoy that.As swim as said before diphenhydramine has a randomness.Swim has learned sometimes the trip isn't even related to dosage as the last time swim had a full blown diphenhydramine trip he took less than he usually takes.Swim feels swiy should treat this substance with respect and try to use it as safely as possible if use it at all.

[roofle]

Ok; today he tried another approach. He cruched a couple pills so they'll dissolve a bit faster and took a 200 mg 'start' dose. And about Now, he takes another 400 mg. Let's see where that takes him. He'll update soon. (or his sitters will) ^_^

[roofle]

Since the edit button is harder to find than the hallucinations he'll doublepost; he 'only' took 300mg, sorry for the typo.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Perhaps some people are more immune to the effects of diphenhydramine.Swiy must remember drugs effect different people in slightly different ways.Just don't take this quest for the ultimate diphenhydramine trip to a dangerous place.

[roofle]

He has decided that he'll abstain for a week, and then take a moderate dose and see if theres any effect. As of now; he is feeling some of the usual body high, but it hasn't made him dumb enough to make it impossible to write/watch tv/converse. Maybe it's just meant to be. ^^
Also, the brand is "Kirkland", 400 Diphenhydramine HCL minitabs. He will still use them in low doses to sleep tho, since he has had sleepingproblems, but with these he falls asleep pronto if he tries.

[roofle]

One more thing, he gets almost all of the other effects, like forgetting sentences as he's writing them, asking "What were we talking about again?" and blushed skin, dry mouth etc etc. The hallucinations is the only thing that just won't happen; which is kinda lame since that was the whole reason i wanted to try it anyways.

Also, where is the edit button, it's getting frustrating?

[natevines]

I'd probably advise your friend to lay off it a bit. This isn't a drug to just consistently mess around with. I took 800 mgs and I consider myself lucky nothing bad happened. I didn't trip either, but it might not be worth your sanity. I would never go past that much; there are other drugs that are safer and more fun...

[roofle]

Yep, he has given up on the hallucinations tho he will still use it for sleepaid for which it works wonders! The thing he's most worried about is what the larger doses has done to his kidney/liver. Another update, the body high seems to dissappear slowly and he's only slighty 'stupid'. Thanks anyways, let's hope his liver ain't mush yet.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim has never been able to find much info on the effects of longterm,chronic diphenhydramine use.As someone brought up to swim this is because not many people enjoy it for recreation.Swim has no idea about what it does to the liver.

[poorleno]

first of all, a big thank you to all the posters- this is quite possibly one of the best resources I've found on this subject. It might also have been enough to scare someone I know but who isn't me into getting their act together if they were to be messing around with diphen. This person I know who wasn't me has been a long-term addict of diphen, taking 200mg to 250mg daily for up to three years. They ended up doing this as a route to get around an opiate and alcohol layoff and which definitely led to just as much pain and distress as those others caused. During this phase, they would have had a number of heavier binges up to 800mg, full trip and emergency treatment necessary.

The good news, as far as I'm aware, this individual's liver test came back OK. That doesn't give a green light and there could always be delayed reaction years down the line but mentally, the near permanent brainfog seems to lift fairly rapidly according to this person who told me their story.

This very forum was a positive catalyst in this swim's getting a handle on this problem so on behalf of them, thks all and look after yourselves! Pin Lucid Dreamer's post to your fridge and keep reading it until the urge to try this goes away!

An intriguing, but very dark and unpredictable drug. While stuff like naked lunch seems quite glamorous, it's really very cruel as it robs the takers thoughts and turns users into something like a zombie!

peace and health!

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[Orchid_Suspiria]

Yes diphenhydramine is indeed a drug that seems to embody darkness.This is what attracted swim to it.It does have the abillity to show swim some very beautiful things but at the cost of facing swims deepest fears and nightmares.It also has some very nasty physical side effects.Experiment but do it with care.Don't come to like it too much because it is so easily available and because of this it can in someways cause more problems than many illegal drugs.

[Female]

SWIM had a pretty hard time getting hallucinations too, and when she finally did, I think it was close to 500mgs, they weren't the full blown seeing dark people motionless in the hallways type stuff, it was more seeing a blanket shift into a baseball mit for a second type things. It was more of "seeing in your mind's eye" than anything else. Though she did think she experienced some auditory hallucinations; thumps that weren't there. It isn't an easy drug to handle, and due to the extreme shallow breathing and the swelling of her hands and face (not to an extreme degree) she vowed to not do it again. She was afraid she'd go to sleep and stop breathing. Be careful. If it doesn't work, it may just NOT WORK at all for you. Don't try to induce hallcinations through complete toxicity from this drug in doses higher than 600 (swim wouldn't recommend more than 500mgs for an experienced user). Your body is your body, and the effects are different for everyone, not to mention diphenhydramine is random anyways.

[roofle]

Originally Posted by Female

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Actually SWIM tested it again yesterday after a 'long' break. Seems like there were some minor hallucinations; mostly walls looking shaky, and some stuff in the eyecorner, but when he tried to focus on em' they dissappeared. Other than that, only the usual feeling heavy, skin turning bright red etc. All in all, it was almost like all other times, the only thing disturbing was that he couldn't sleep anything. So sucks for him that he has to get to work in 30 minutes. Oh, one more thing; SWIM almost never dreams a normal night, not that I can recall atleast, however tonight he nodded off for like five minutes a couple times; and had really vivid dreams which was pretty cool. Nothing mindblowing, but that he actually remembers some of the dreams was a welcome change. Not worth sittin' in a dark room and staring into the void an entire night tho.

He was at the hospital a while ago also, and they checked most of the stuff that could've taken a hit; seems like everything was just fine.

[Female]

Originally Posted by roofle

Actually SWIM tested it again yesterday after a 'long' break. Seems like there were some minor hallucinations; mostly walls looking shaky, and some stuff in the eyecorner, but when he tried to focus on em' they dissappeared. Other than that, only the usual feeling heavy, skin turning bright red etc. All in all, it was almost like all other times, the only thing disturbing was that he couldn't sleep anything. So sucks for him that he has to get to work in 30 minutes. Oh, one more thing; SWIM almost never dreams a normal night, not that I can recall atleast, however tonight he nodded off for like five minutes a couple times; and had really vivid dreams which was pretty cool. Nothing mindblowing, but that he actually remembers some of the dreams was a welcome change. Not worth sittin' in a dark room and staring into the void an entire night tho.

He was at the hospital a while ago also, and they checked most of the stuff that could've taken a hit; seems like everything was just fine.

Yep, that was pretty much the bulk of SWIM's hallucinations too. Shaky vision, etc etc. About Swiy's dreams, swim has this sneaking suspicion (not confirmed yet by other sources) that one of the reasons why a person can hallucinate on diphenhydramine is because it fucks with their REM sleep. She noticed that just before the hallucinations started, her eyes would shift back and forth rapidly, like they would do during REM activity. Perhaps sleep deprivation (which does cause hallucinations) is being chemically induced by using diphenhydramine, so with all that in mind, it makes sense that your dreams would be boosted since a lot of dreaming takes place during the REM stage of sleep. SWIM is glad your hospital visit went okay!

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Diphenhydramine is a very dangerous toy.Swifemale is right when she says to be careful.A toxic overdose just isn't worth hallucinations.Especially hallucinations that for all purposes make one either think they are crazy or their house is haunted.

[roofle]

Originally Posted by Orchid_Suspiria

Diphenhydramine is a very dangerous toy.Swifemale is right when she says to be careful.A toxic overdose just isn't worth hallucinations.Especially hallucinations that for all purposes make one either think they are crazy or their house is haunted.

Yes, the doses now are much lower 550mg to be precise. He mostly use them to boost opiods, but when he's poor and the stash is gone Diphen suddenly doesn't seem so bad.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Well swim isn't the only opiate user that would dip into diphenhydramine when times are bad.Unfortunately the diphenhydramine high isn't that pleasant when one is going through withdrawal it just takes a person out of reallity and makes them sleep which is the best thing one can hope for in the state of opioid withdrawal other than a good fix lol.

[ayvah]

SWIM tried 400mg of Diphenhydramine yesterday. It was her first time with it. SWIM noticed cottonmouth, tingling in arms and legs, and a sick stomach. SWIM didn't trip and was quite disappointed with the experience. Today, SWIM is very tired. SWIM would like to ask if anyone here knows why the capsules didn't work for her. SWIM wonders if her Zoloft medication canceled out the Benadryl.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

The cotton mouth and the weird body sensations are definitely part of the diphenhydramine so it was working.Swim has no idea if Zoloft could cancel out diphenhydramines effects?It isn't abnormal for a person to not enjoy diphenhydramine.Most people don't enjoy it.It is definitely an acquired taste as far as mind altering substances go.

[ayvah]

Originally Posted by Swift Serenity

SWIM enjoys it.. but thats weird, SWIY didnt hallucinate at all? especially for a first time with that big of a dosage

SWIM thought it strange and disappointing that the only effect was physical discomfort. What SWIM expected was a difference in her mindstate. SWIM doesn't particularly want hallucinations (although she doesn't mind them), just dissociation. SWIM would like to know what others think about raising the dose. Maybe 500mg? SWIM would also note that she enjoys DXM, but can't have it any more, so she is looking for something that gives a similar feeling.