Experiences - Diphenhydramine Not Working/No Effects

Swim took 200mg at 10:30. At 11:30 he still felt nothing, so Swim took another 100mg. At 12:30 there was still nothing, so he took another 50mg.

So 350mg, and Swim doesn't even feel tired. Did Swim do something wrong...should he of taken the whole dose at once instead? Is it possible he is 'immune' to this drug? Swim was really looking forward to this night, but it seems to be a dud.

Any ideas?

[El Calico Loco]

He might be a fast metabolizer. Or he could have allergies that use up the diphen. Swim has noticed that diphen has no side effects (lethargy, dullness, delirium, etc) when his allergies are really bad.

It's certainly one of the most random drugs out there. Swim has had strong trips from 250mg and nothing at all from 500mg. It can be frustrating. That, coupled with its toxicity, makes Swim not like it much (except for its intended uses, at which it excels).


ECL

[darkglobe]

^ +1. Point made.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Odd it is a very random drug.SWIM has experiemented with it for years and only a couple times had a full blown trip with the reallistic dream like hallucinations people rave about,one of these times was just a few days ago.I think it entirely depends on mood,circumstance,tolerance,metabolism and things of that nature.Usually it makes SWIM drowsy and he does get the faint bursts of colors and music takes on a very high quality,but true trips are a rare thing.

Swim thanks you all for your replies

About an hour after posting here (which would be about 3.5 hours or so after injesting). Swim finally felt some mild-drunken effects. Swim never had visual hallucinations, though he thinks he might of heard some sounds that weren't there.

The next day while Swim was walking to class he started having weird muscle spasms in his legs and stomach area. It casued swim to almost fall a couple times lol.

Swim doesn't think he's going to be trying this drug again for a long time.

[darkglobe]

350mg is a fairly low dose for Diphen's deleriant properties to fully take effect. I wouldn't recommend any higher though.

In actual fact I wouldn't recommend this drug at all, anymore.
DXM has a much better trip, and it's more controllable and interesting. It's also easier on the body (well it feels like it is) and the LD50 isn't very close to the recreational dose, whereas I get the feeling that every Diphen binge is "one life gone, 8 to go..."

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I agree.

[Gozaggss]

I recently had the same issue. Diphen is currently one of my favorite drugs due to it's availability. just earlier this week SWIM had a HUGE trip off of only 275mgs. then just last night, i did the same. and next to nothing happened. very random drug.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim wouldn't call it a favorite but it is certainly available.It does have a randomness to it.Sometimes it will grant a fullblown trip other times nothing..

[chunky funky basslines]

swim is still unsure of this, its not really that pleasant, the visuals can be nice, but only really good ones in perifieral vision, cartoon likeness etc.

visuals lacking colour were there but only if swim concentrated hard on an object for a while.

[Gozaggss]

it's definatly a drug not for the weak or high strung. SWIM has tripped off of acid and has experimented with many other deliriants but Diphen is swims fav (next to lsd of course) because it is a very strong drug but not too strong that swim can't handle it or get too scared. swim's friends have tried diphen and hated it because they got too scared. the fact that it may be magical only sometimes will no discourage swim.

[doper_hero]

SWIM has done Benadryl numerous times.

The first time was fun: SWIM saw black dots flying around and he could make things disappear from his vision. It was around 350 mg.

The most recent time: SWIM felt naseaus and horrible. Had zip hallucinations and it was the same dose pretty much. He felt sick all day.

Every time SWIM does it, his experience gets worse and worse. Does anyone else have this? Why is this happening.

His most recent trip left him never wanting to do it again.

[chrisn]

How often has SWIY been partaking? Diphenhydramine (which is what I assume you mean by Benedryl, as it can contain different chemicals in different countries), builds a tolerance quite fast, so repeated usage might reduce the psychoactive effects, and possibly not the physical effects. Give it a few months before SWIY tries it again.

My dragon tried diphenhydramine four times in the span of a month or two. The latter two experiences were notably short-lived, coming down to baseline in two hours, despite dosing up to 500mg.

[natevines]

Disappointed. It's 3:30 now here and I can't get to sleep...
Never done benadryl before, but I popped 9 caps (25 mgs) 3 hours ago, then about an hour and a half ago i popped another 6. I felt a LITTLE funky before, but at no point did I even have anything close to a trip...
I ate inbetween the 9 pills and the other six. I ate like 20 mins after I popped the initial pills. From what I'm reading here, the 9 should've worked alone. They're gelcaps, but are they gonna kick in? It definitely shouldn't take this long! What did I do wrong?

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[natevines]

Wow, I can't get to sleep either. I'm more awake than ever, thought I would be getting tired...

[kakakaka]

Works out at 375mg of Diphenhydramine. Swim took 400mg his first time and never felt much either and couldnt sleep at all exp since he had terrible irritable leg syndrome.

Maybe the dose was not strong enough for someone who isnt you. Swims sure that you wouldnt be silly enough to incriminate yourself.

Swiy could raise the dosage, but remember to be very carefull with deleriants, there not a legal version or acid/shrooms and can be very dangerous, unless walking out onto a busy road is your sence of fun.

[natevines]

Yeah, well what did SWIY do the next time? 375 seems like a high enough dose since swim read of others tripping at 150...
Swims a little hesitant to experiment with more than 375. Maybe swim should try a similar dosage again?

[kakakaka]

Different people have different tolerances to drugs. Swim never took diphenhydramine a second time as of yet as he is still working his way through other drugs to try.

If swiy doesnt feel safe taking anymore then simply dont do it. Never take something if it doesnt feel right, its your own life thats in danger. If swiy wants to try it again then take the same dosage again to see if the effects are different, as it can be a hit or miss with Diphenhydramine.

If nothing happens still, maybe swiy has a higher tolerance and swiy could work up slowly maybe only an extra pill or two if they want to get a desired effect. Again tho, only if they feel completely safe about doing so.

Go over to erowid.com or just browse this forum and read up about diphenhydramine if swiy hasnt already, its full of trip reports and dosages people have taken. Always read up about a drug before consuming it, know exactly what is going to happen, expecially in the case of a deleriant.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

With diphenhydramine sometimes it is a matter of luck.The weird bodyload,strange thought process,and audible hallucinations are pretty much guarunteed.However the visual hallucinations and delirium do not always happen.It has alot to do with mindstate,swim has found that smoking cannabis can add to the experience and make true hallucinations more possible.Be very careful!A true diphenhydramine trip can be a very interesting but at times very frightening experience.

[natevines]

Thanks for the help boys

Anyhow, swim took a full box (600 MGs) a couple of hours ago and feels a little strange once again (woozy). Swim also keeps walking into objects! Other than that, I was wondering if swim should do it again maybe with an even HIGHER dose this time?

[Lucid_Dreamer]

STOP!! Purge your system right now. You have no idea what you are getting yourself into.

600mg is a strong enough dose to send you into complete delirium in which you can NOT control your body, your thoughts, or your movements. It is dangerous. Diphenhydramine alone is dangerous.

I recently took a starter dose of 700mg and nothing happened to me for 5 hours. Then I decided...hey...why not take 500 more mg. Within 2o minutes after I ingested the next 500mg, the first 700mg kicked in and I threw up and the other 500mg came back up. I ended up in the hospital for 2 days with delirium not knowing where I was at. I had an electrolyte imbalance, my heart rate was at 220bpm, and my heart almost exploded because it was beting so fast and hard.

PLEASE!! For me and the ones who love you, THROW THEM UP NOW! Don't tell SWIY, I want YOU to throw them up.

If you value your life more than you do tripping on some fucking allergy medicine, then you will do it.

-Matt

[Smokey420]

In my opinion, Diphenhydramine is not worth it at the highest doses, the twitchy legs, dysphoric feelings, and extreme sedation is too much to enjoy the hallucinations. Sure, you'll hallucinate, but you won't be able to actually enjoy them, and you will lose lucidity the more and more you dose. Don't go over 500mgs, btw. I've read that Diph can induce heart attacks at a dose of 250mgs or more, though its very rare.

Someone who isn't me has had a single positive Diphenhydramine experience, however. This was achieved by around 150mgs, and smoking weed, experienced a tingly feeling all over his body and had some euphoria, only while listening to music. Wasn't extremely tired, though. ONe time he took 450mgs, walked to a friends house, felt misreble, stared at the walls hallucinating occasionally, at the peak he talked to someone who wasn't there and then snapped back into reality, still feeling like complete shit.

Summary: Its not worth taking at high doses, not only is it a misreble experience, its dangerous!

[Raw edge]

Swim tried moderate doses dosage with no effect. He increased his dosages periodically till he reached 700mg. He achieved non of the desirable effect that he had heard of. He decided to try one last time. He dosaged 300mg with 8 cans of lager still nothing. Swim was going through some rough shit. He was just looking for ways to get completly messed up. After much drinking he upped his dosage twice to the point of reaching 800mg in combination with alcohol. Guess what he got his wish. He completly scared a family member, who called the menal health nurse for him. The family member just assumed he drank too much, and had a bad reaction with his zyprexa and alcohol. During the whole incidence swim apparently kept saying I am fine, I am fine despite te fact he was afr from it. The next he was called down to find the mental health nurse in his living room. He spoofed her and said it must have been the mix of booze and zypexa. At this point swim was still hallucinating but was aware oif it. Mostly shape manipulation and two patterns in the wall paper being seen in 3D etc. As soon as the nurse was gone; He wnt back to bed due to a really heavy body load.

He tried diphen once more. What can I say he is a bit fucked in the head. This time he dosed at 300mg. This time all the side effects that are part and parcel of this so called high were more extreme than any of the previous times.

Now swim generally just uses it as indicated. Even 150mg doses after some alcohol when he is agitated leaves him worse than b4.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

That much diphenhydramine is way too much for a beginner!It is way too much for anyone actually.Do not take that much diphenhydramine!This is not a drug to be careless with.

[natevines]

That's real interesting raw edge. Swim has read a lot of posts on this forum and come to the conclusion that this drug acts completely randomly, irrespective of dose...
Swim's 600 mg dose caused minor open-eye hallucinations, but swim read that on diph trips the user can't distinguish between hallucinations and reality, but this wasn't the case for swim...
The trip wasn't exactly pleasant and the visuals reminded swim of shrooms (i.e, objects looking 'wavy', objects appearing to grow and shrink, etc).

[roofle]

A friend of mine is fairly unexperienced with diphenhydramine and just tried it one week ago. The first dose he tried was 650mg, the person he was with took nothing. After 2 hours he started to get some minor effects like being drowsy, and feeling heavy and being dumb as a dog. However he had NO hallucinations, not even audio. So the day after he decided to try it again, this time 800mg. Same effect, drowsy and heavy, nothing more. And yesterday he tried 1200mg thinking "what the hell", still NO hallucinations and no other effects than feeling heavy and being a bit slower than usual. So the question is, how come he can't seem to hallucinate with diphenhydramine? He also tells me he has tried some other delirants, also with no effect. Same with DXM; which gives him a slight headache and mild euphoria.

Also; Is it dangerous to heighten the dose considerably, or is the damage already done. ^^