Can pseudoephedrine be fun by itself?

[Viceroy]

SWIM here has a bunch of sudafed because of a constantly stuffy nose due to dusty desert conditions and was wondering if pseudoephedrine by itself can have any amphetamine like effects just by itself.

[candy_kid]

swim finds it mildly speedy when totally awake, however when sleepy theres the forcing you awake effects of speedy drugs, but still the regular old tiredness of being tired which in swim's opinion is a terrible feeling - theres very little (if any) euphoria and only mild stimulation, but it is sometimes a nice push from drowsiness in the middle of the day- and no, theres really no comparison aside from the fact that they both relieve cold symptoms and have some perk

[Viceroy]

SWIM took 300mg, powdered and put in gelcaps. Very noticeable speedy effects after about ~20mins, but nothing extremely strong. Some pacing for a few moments, comparable to like a quad-shot espresso. Nothing unpleasant, but nothing too fun.

[izzy31]

pseudoephedrine is useful when taken with opiates - it helps swim stay awake while tripping. otherwise opiates just make swim want to lay down.

[stimulerium]

SWIM recently took 150 mg (5 pills) and felt kinda speedy and it kept him up until 3 am when I took it at 5 pm. SWIM got really irritable and felt bored for most of the "high", but SWIM does get wierd effects from these kinds of drugs. Maybe because he has ADHD?

[JaWill88]

isn't it just like ephedrine?

[stimulerium]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

isn't it just like ephedrine?

SWIM thinks its (very) similar but its synthesized unlike how ephedrine is extracted from whatever plant... Ephedra plant or something?

[trptamene]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

isn't it just like ephedrine?

ephedrine is thought to have more recreational value than pseudoephedrine.

a related thread:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ine+recreation

Originally Posted by speedball_artist

SWIM thinks its (very) similar but its synthesized unlike how ephedrine is extracted from whatever plant... Ephedra plant or something?

pseudoephedrine exists along with ephedrine in some plants and all 4 isomers even exist in others like Ma Huang.

most commercially made pseudoephedrine is produced via yeast fermentation of dextrose.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

ephedra has more of a potential then pseudo, all psuedoephedrine is good for is cold pills and methamphetamine. anyone who says pseudo has rec value has never done real psycho-stimulants.