Pcp + E

[I Against I]

SWIM is wondering how these two would mix together, would the E make for a smoother trip?

[God_Albino]

swim should absolutely dont do it, i cant think of a more neurotoxic combo.

dxm and e is a huge no-no, and pcps way stronger than ole syrup

[eltimmy]

Yea, SWIY would be asking for serious problems. Serotonin syndrome, etc.

[sarbanes]

Originally Posted by God_Albino

swim should absolutely dont do it, i cant think of a more neurotoxic combo.

dxm and e is a huge no-no, and pcps way stronger than ole syrup

Words can’t really explain how off you are here. Remember, arylcylohexylamines are neuroprotective against amphetamine type oxidative damage, among others. Of course, its not wise to take these drugs, period, and the psychological damage the two could have together must be considered. I just wish people would have real basis for stating big and wide things, instead of just saying shit.


S.R. Wingrove and K.O. Leimgruber, "Phencyclidine protection against 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine induced neurtoxicity in the caudate, and monkey sub-striatum," Neuropharmacol., 223, 456-459 (1992).

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1528-1157.1995.tb00979.x

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I apologise for my rant (above), it wasn't very nice.

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	Way to back it up! It'd be nice if you could add this to our archive and link it tho.
	you could've said this without flaming him. he's dead by the way.

[DOHP]

Why do you think it would cause serotonin syndrome? PCP does not effect the serotonin system in any way that I am aware of.

And "dxm and e is a huge no-no" because mdma causes you body to overheat, and DXM prevents sweating. PCP is nothing like DXM in that respect, and it should not cause a problem.

Dissociatives classicly prevent neurological damage rather than causing it.

I wouldn't see a problem with this combo. I wish I had some PCP right now

[Paracelsus]

DXM prevents sweating

I always wondered if this is actually a fact. Excessive sweating from DXM was reported only once in the medical literature IIRC*, but I never heard that DXM prevents sweating (except on MDMA-related websites, always without reference).

[Drug Add1ct]

lol, pcp can easily kill you, the pill for pcp is like an en eraser lol and pcp can cause alot of problems such as big anger problems
" yall heard about a kid toke pcp wanted to go to his girlfriends mom said no and he killed his mom " <<<< ( no joke.)
lol dont take this shit trust me... lol

[dodi]

Originally Posted by I Against I

SWIM is wondering how these two would mix together, would the E make for a smoother trip?

No NO no No no no no

SWIMs buddy gave some buddies pcp+e laced multi-speckled playboys pills.
They got freaking crazyyy
For 3 days they were seeing crazy glimpses of animals and for like 2 weeks a bunch of purple/red/pink dots everywhere, continously.

The buddy quite promoting these beans due to man people doing stupid things to and getting busted.One guy got busted for 6 months for being stupid. He was in jail when his best friend died and wasn't able to attend the funeral. Stay away from this combination, you will wind up in a hospital, jail, or incriminating yourself to someone and/or just not knowing what the hell happened.

[xifentoozlerix]

the ignorance pervading this thread (and a huge majority of the world) is astounding. pcp+e is, like most other things, safe when done with care and respect. there are no crazy synergies here that will automatically make you stupid or crazy or die. SWIM has experienced this combination and he had an amazing time. however, most people dont have the self control and respect for the substances they ingest that SWIM had.

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Well said

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by xifentoozlerix

the ignorance pervading this thread (and a huge majority of the world) is astounding. pcp+e is, like most other things, safe when done with care and respect. there are no crazy synergies here that will automatically make you stupid or crazy or die. SWIM has experienced this combination and he had an amazing time. however, most people dont have the self control and respect for the substances they ingest that SWIM had.

It'd be really fucking hard on the body and mind, along with being pretty dangerous without knowing exactly what you're getting.

[Paracelsus]

there are no crazy synergies here that will automatically make you stupid or crazy or die.

While this may be true for PCP+MDMA, have you ever heard of drug interactions? I second the first sentence of post #11.

[RaverHippie]

the purity of both substances should be a red flag for anyone attempting this combo. That sentence is enough to make SWIM never even get curious.

[dodi]

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

While this may be true for PCP+MDMA, have you ever heard of drug interactions? I second the first sentence of post #11.

SWIM doesn't think any type of dissociative can possibly be safe unless maybe somehow the unknown tolerance level between every individual is always the same. People always react different when tweaked out.

Psychologist consider somebody high on marijuana and acting very strange that the marijuana didn't cause them to do this, they were already diagnosed or had whatever it is before hand. That being said, you have a hidden reaction to how you react, this is unknown and can't be considered safe. Your mind and body are like being separated uncontrollably when on a dissociative. So SWIM objects to any comment about anything with PCP possibly being safe due to its extreme reactions amongst various people.

[xifentoozlerix]

I agree that noone should mix drugs if they havent first experienced them separately and had experience with them. I do know about interactions and indications and all that, and there really isnt any to be spoken of in this case. It is nothing at all like combining an MAOI with an SSRI. If someone wanted to try the combo after already knowing they react "well" to the substances taken alone, then I do not think there is anything to worry about. I also assume quality is not an issue, since SWIM would never purchase any drugs whose source and purity were a mystery to him.

[Samadhi]

Ahh, the elephant-flip! Swim had a few friends in New York who got real into this combo, they were taking tabs so they could've been adulterated with methampehtamine or amphetamine but...

Swims friend ended up going into a fit of epilepsy and the other one three weeks later checked himself into the hospital with something horribly wrong with his ocular muscles. This combo as they said "fucked their heart and made it explode"

But they said it felt oh so good... Swim would warn against this combo... Due to the health risks involved with both substances and their combo being a mix of he two

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thanks

[gallop7080]

if he wants to die or be a vegetable, then yeah, it's awesome.

/thread.

[daddylonglegs]

elephant flip. yes sir. "smooth" is the perfect description. tis like peaking but very smooth, spread out and big feeling.