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Old 10-08-2007, 04:38
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Coincidence....mystical experience ensues..

So yesterday swim had a rough but interesting experience. SWIM used to use DXM quite a bit but stopped after what it was doing to him. SWIM had a moment of relapse after several months, and is quite glad the way it happened.

SWIM basically only involves himself in dissociatives, so of course salvia was a substance swim also chose to use excessively. Well yesterday, a very happy turn of events came swim's way.

SWIM made some dxm extract and consumed it....problem was...it probably absorbed to fast or something and swim vomited like 3/4 of it. It was a sad that this happened because the trip was weak, just a body high, a complete waste of time and health to swim. So swim did something he never does in his life usually...he made a decision spontaneously.

DXM happens to numb (or lose contact altogether is what it felt like) of a lot of parts of the body. SWIM's trachea didn't hurt anymore, and breathing was easy...this hinted that swim should smoke something...(ideas). So swim tried the salvia on dxm.

The experience was so incredibly moving (out of body, salvia "object trip" and a flashback) that swim doesn't think that he will ever consume a drug again because it would only taint the majestic experience he had yesterday. This trip not only was just moving, but it was symbolic towards all of swim's previous trips (most of swim's previous trips were failures in getting anywhere). This trip meant so much to swim, and swim realizes how many times he had to fail to get this to work.

DXM trips and salvia trips were all crappy, swim almost had legal trouble obtaining certain ingredients, swim messed up preparation and consumption....and after years of attempts...swim had to FAIL AT HIS LOWEST POINT to achieve the powerful experience he wished for.

What an awkward coincidence and twist of things, can anyone relate? SWIM feels like all the failures he had amounted to something, were all part of something. Kind of a cool way of looking at life.

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  thank you for sharing this report...made swim nostalgic of his first and only ++++...sigh
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Re: Coincidence....mystical experience ensues..

It's interesting that some times we try sooo hard to obtain something with no luck...and then when we finally give up and are resigned to the way things are...here the gods come to give you exactly what you are looking for, just to show you that you don't know anything

can swiy update? Have they used since this transcendental/majestic experience? Would swiy describe this as a ++++ state?

on another note, it should be noted that it is never a failure if you learn something. if you have gained knowledge than it can only be described in terms of degree of success.
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Re: Coincidence....mystical experience ensues..

Swim has actually been clean since this experience. Swim is still convinced that any trip done now could only hinder the experience.

Being in that state was actually nothing great at all. Swim had no emotion or anything during the trip (it was an object trip, swim was an airport baggage claim carousel, really random).

The spiritual aspect of it had to do with analyzing what it meant. The knowledge gained from it was the real experience. The trip just showed swim how to look at things.

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Re: Coincidence....mystical experience ensues..

hmm...swiy seemed more enthusiastic about the experience during the OP....has swiy's thoughts on the trip changed since? Was integration of the experience difficult after the trip was done?

Sad to hear swiy does not think the experience was as magical as I gathered swiy thought it was in the OP.
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Re: Coincidence....mystical experience ensues..

Oh don't get swim wrong, the trip was the most mystical thing swim has ever experienced. The thing is, swim couldn't really enjoy it during the trip because that's Salvia's nature.

Salvia at it's highest level is an insane dissociative. Swim had no human emotions whatsoever. In order to really understand the spiritualy aspect, swiy must know a little about swim's previous use.

All but one of swim's salvia trips up to this one was utter failure. It ended up in something like swim's brain laughing at him or something dysphoric. The only non-failure was when swim kind of broke through, and that was a good trip.

This one was beyond that. In all of swim's trips...there was this weird body force moving counter clockwise (not really the "salvia gravity" but more like swim knew something was going on and it was going on on swim's left, and physcially, swim resisted by moving his body to the right. And then swim recognized what he was looking at, turned left again. Swim would forget what's going on and look right again. (So physically this looks liek swim doing these weird situps towards the right while lying on his left).

This trip was swim being an object (particularly one with tracks). SWim flashbacked to a 4th grade field trip (which had a train there,, it was a park).Towards the end of it, swim turned himself (the carousel tracks) counter clockwise.And at the same time, a face protruded onto the tracks (like made out of tracks), and swim went from being the carousel to floating out of it (the face remained). But swim later analyzed that he wasn't just floating, he was on this train, because on the come down, swim's bodily innards felt like he was floating on his stomach (swim actually was on his stomach at this point) and he was moving left (as if from the inside of my body there was air resistance coming from the left). Swim also "felt" that people were beside him on his left.

The point being, swim finally achieved what he wanted, he got where he wanted to go (wherever going left would have gone). The come down also signified that swim was on this train...meaning he was there. The thing is, swim had to lose all sense of human emotion (desire to get somewhere) and then be taken to an edenic place just so it could happen. In other words, swim had to not be human (get rid of desire) in order to experience "getting on this train." Where this train went swim has no clue, nor wants to know. Swim just knows he's on it.

That's a lot of mumbo jumbo, but overall it was a very mystical experience, the whole point being that swim could only understand it while not tripping.

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