BZP Vision

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SWIMs vision tends to go slightly blurry on BZP. Does this happen with any of SWIYs?

[Joe Duffy]

Just BZP or a BZP combination such as BZP and TMFPP ?

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Just BZP as far as I know. Most stimulants infact. I can still see the screen, but its a fuck of an effort. The pills weren't even particularly potent. I cant recall the name but they were yellow. Mehh.

[Joe Duffy]

If it was just BZP, SWIY may like to post on this thread “BZP experiences” http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34969 assuming no other drugs were consumed: legal, illegal or prescribed.

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Thanking you. SWIM smoked some hash earlier on in an effort to comedown but to no avail. Perhaps SWIM may smoke some more momentarily as the effects have died down.

Does SWIY know any other methods of coming down fast or would this be the best?

[Mint boi]

Did swiy get his bzp from a heastore marketed as a party pill? cos chances are it was mixed with something! Especially the party pills that swim has gotten in dublin (presuming you got it there!) swim gets slight visual distortions from bzp mixed with tmfpp

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Aye, that be the one. Northside no doubt. SWIM began doing them a few months ago as he permanently kicked the illegal alternatives...although he thinks he may just stick to spice now or the occasional joint. The packet contained two yellow pills and two white pills with 'elevate' inscribed on each.

Rather mild and just annoying at this stage. Perhaps spliff-ways is best-ways for the now...?

[Mint boi]

ah yes, was it just the white pills with "elevate" inscribed on them? if so swim think swim knows the product and is pretty sure it has tfmpp in there, among other things! swim thinks the white pills are recovery pills??

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Sweet heart of christ no. SWIM dropped a yellow and hasnt touched the white pills as of yet. In actual fact, SWIM just found half a joint of hash and has found that to be a marvellous downer. SWIM is unsure whither the white remainders are indeed recovery pills, and unfortunately cant find out because the packaging was lost some time ago.

Drat.

Although, SWIM recalls seeing the mention of 5HTP scrawled somewhere upon the sleeve. They'd hardly include 5HTP in the yellow pill, would they? Perhaps it actually is a recovery pill.

[Mint boi]

yeh! ok dont go on what swim is saying cos he'd hate to see someone dose up again when they're trying to come down... but knows of a brand of recovery pills called elevate that contain 5-htp ect, and there is deff a brand that include recovery pills with their product! swim cant link, but search "elevate recovery pill" in google and you'll get a site that has them, u could try compare them to what you have?

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Hummas were the ones. SWIMS fairly certain Elevate are the pills he got with said product but may take them upon waking up the later this morning with a joint.

SWIM may now look into procuring some said elevate pills as they would surely come in damn handy.

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[Mint boi]

swim agrees about them being usefull, but is sure that they are grossly over priced for what they are, basically 5htp and multi vitiman, swiy could try getting 5 htp in a health store or pharmacy, but swim has never been able to find it around dublin (hasnt looked very hard though!!)

btw you may not be able to edit as a newbie, but you cant post links here to commercial sites!!

[Lunar Loops]

Originally Posted by mint boi

swim agrees about them being usefull, but is sure that they are grossly over priced for what they are, basically 5htp and multi vitiman, swiy could try getting 5 htp in a health store or pharmacy, but swim has never been able to find it around dublin (hasnt looked very hard though!!)

btw you may not be able to edit as a newbie, but you cant post links here to commercial sites!!

You won't find 5 HTP in any health store or chemist in Ireland as it is outlawed here (bizarre, SWIS knows, but there you have it).

[Joe Duffy]

Originally Posted by shroomonger

You won't find 5 HTP in any health store or chemist in Ireland as it is outlawed here (bizarre, SWIS knows, but there you have it).

Are you sure about that, I see 5-HTP information and dosages mentioned on an Irish healthcare insurance web site?

[Mint boi]

if swiy is refering to the same insurance company as swim is thinking of... possible a three letter name... then that site gives info on lots of drugs in general, and the disclaimer on the site says that info has been sourced internationally and does not necessecarily refer to medicines in use in ireland, or something to that effect!

[Joe Duffy]

Originally Posted by mint boi

if swiy is refering to the same insurance company as swim is thinking of... possible a three letter name

That’s the one, but I still can’t find information anywhere stating that 5-HTP is banned in Ireland.

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By god you're completely right. Ah, strike one I trust...I always wondered how it would occur.

SWIM reckons SWIY may get 5HTP in Boots. At least he hopes you would, as thats where he's going to attempt. Works wonders, allegedly.

[Mint boi]

REALLY? wtf? that would explain why swim got a strange look in the health store near him when he asked for it! do you know on what basis it is outlawed?

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Typical that one of the only supplements that could prove benificial in treating SWIGS anxiety is banned on this god forsaken island. SWIG has contacts in the medical profession and will know tomorrow evening if it is currently banned or not.

[Lunar Loops]

Actually, this may still be controlled. Getting conflicting information here. Finding info on the net is proving fruitless.

Anybody?

SWIS may try another chemist again tomorrow (long time since he last tried), certainly know that local health food stores do not stock it.

[Thirdedge]

BZP is not herbal XTC and its discussion therefore belongs in the Research Chemical section.

This thread however has drifted away from that and into the discussion of Tryptophan and 5 - HTP, which are two completely different substances controlled under different regulations.