Just been mugged at Knife point, well last night

[Kodi]

Originally Posted by Shiacmkmleer

You're lucky. Me and a couple of me mates were robbed at gun point not too long ago and there was a security camra... the cops didn't even look at it (and yesterday I saw a guy get pulled over for probably speeding and i was like wtf they have time to pull over speeders but not to look at the tapes?)

Yeah, detroit cops dont have the highest amount of respect or care towards their constituents from the times spent their.

One time in the detroit greyhound station back when I was 15 or so I had to get off for a transfer to ann arbor and some creepy pervert tried to get me into the bathroom with him, I told the cops and they did NOTHING, they went and talked to him, he denied it and they did NOTHING after that. Then 4-5 years later when I am there again, I get pulled over for rolling a stop sign at 1 in the morning and the guy was a complete asshole.

[lexmark]

swim was mugged twice at knife point, one for a joint and the other was a drug deal that went bad, swim had a lot of cash but stalled the muggers long enough to take the cash out of his pocket and tuck it under his belt (all except 5 bucks) and when swim finally turned to the 3 pricks he flipped his pockets inside out and gave them the $5 and said "thats all i got"...swim walked away with $90 while the muggers got 5 ahahah!!!! swim got mugged but he was feeling pretty damn proud hehehehe.....


if the muggers are noobs (like in my case) then pull a scam and hide your cash, if they look hardened then just run

[Evil GIR]

Its illegal in the uk to carry anything for self defence, so there is nothing you can do except run.

[lexmark]

well....if your area is really that bad look into getting some lightweight steel toe shoes, its like carrying brass knuckles but on your feet and its legal



but sorry for your loss, at least you gave them a run for their money lol.

[Broshious]

Originally Posted by Evil GIR

Its illegal in the uk to carry anything for self defence, so there is nothing you can do except run.

Wow. That's pure genius.

[Shiacmkmleer]

Originally Posted by Evil GIR

Its illegal in the uk to carry anything for self defence, so there is nothing you can do except run.

[rant without grammer]
lol Aren't ya just glad that Labours been in power so long? (although torries would screw you on other fronts)

idk here in America the republicans want to take away most rights... but the only alternative would take away our weapons (look up obama and hilary's opinions on gun control) has anyone noticed that no one good is running for president? Gravel and Paul are both pretty good but neither are great... although when you consider the saying "Evil requires the sanction of the victim." maybe the solution is to force a return to smaller government/ the constitution?

Fuck i hate Detroit, Im so glad i'm getting out of this place in 8 MOTHER FUCKING DAYS! Seriously this city wont recover anytime soon. Not as long as the culture is so tolerant of crime, the police are underfunded, and the majority of people don't care about education.
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God bless everyone who lives in this modern world... we need it.

[EntheogenicTruth]

Hmmm i agree with the general movement here. that fighting should only be used as a last resort, also theres always a time for laying off any drugs. SWIM personally is taking a sabbatical because he yelled at his girlfriend while coming down off some K based pills. But if i were you i would be glad that your justice system in uh... planet Irkaine... works as well as it does. If something like that happened here you would be lucky if the bacon actually caught the crims. i mean its good in some ways but bad in others, meaning they dont really care enough to get u into any trouble for misdemeanors (like carrying a couple of pills on your body) but when an actual crime is committed they dont really do very much about it.

[fireflywa]

"Rush a gun, flee a knife"

I'd have to disagree. Anyone who attempts to mug you while holding a knife is almost guaranteed to not know how to fight with it. Using a knife to fight is incredibly dumb unless you are properly trained...you're really more likely to hurt yourself than the other person. There's a much higher risk of them being faster than you then there is of them being skilled at knife-fighting.

The knife is for intimidation. It worked.

[Shiacmkmleer]

Originally Posted by fireflywa

"Rush a gun, flee a knife"

I'd have to disagree. Anyone who attempts to mug you while holding a knife is almost guaranteed to not know how to fight with it. Using a knife to fight is incredibly dumb unless you are properly trained...you're really more likely to hurt yourself than the other person. There's a much higher risk of them being faster than you then there is of them being skilled at knife-fighting.

The knife is for intimidation. It worked.

Jesus christ are you serious? I'm five four and weight 55-56 kilos. Im not trained with a knife other than playing around with them as a kid (yea i was/am dumb what can i say?). Unarmed you couldn't take me if i had a decent blade. As I once read: fight one of your friends while one of you holsd a marker and the other is unarmed. get any marks on you? thats a stab wound vs a knife.

Assuming you're unarmed I'd say give them what they want if its just a mugging with a gun and run from a knife.

[Broshious]

Originally Posted by Shiacmkmleer

Jesus christ are you serious? I'm five four and weight 55-56 kilos. Im not trained with a knife other than playing around with them as a kid (yea i was/am dumb what can i say?). Unarmed you couldn't take me if i had a decent blade. As I once read: fight one of your friends while one of you holsd a marker and the other is unarmed. get any marks on you? thats a stab wound vs a knife.

Assuming you're unarmed I'd say give them what they want if its just a mugging with a gun and run from a knife.

That seems like a bad comparison to me as you would have to actually hurt your friend to stop them which I doubt you'd be willing to do while all your friend would be doing is drawing on you.

[fireflywa]

Originally Posted by Shiacmkmleer

Jesus christ are you serious? I'm five four and weight 55-56 kilos. Im not trained with a knife other than playing around with them as a kid (yea i was/am dumb what can i say?). Unarmed you couldn't take me if i had a decent blade. As I once read: fight one of your friends while one of you holsd a marker and the other is unarmed. get any marks on you? thats a stab wound vs a knife.

Assuming you're unarmed I'd say give them what they want if its just a mugging with a gun and run from a knife.

Anybody trained in unarmed combat can easily disable any offender possessing any weapon unless the offender is equally trained.

At the first swipe/stab/thrust of the knife, it'd be possible to dislocate the elbow and shoulder of the attacking arm, while breaking the wrist. Takes a bit of knowledge, instinct, and training, but meh, it's entirely possible to completely incapacitate the aggressor with a pretty damn low risk of harm.

I guess that's not the average person though, so it probably is better to run. Personally, I'd run, and if pursued, they'll regret it. Fighting is never the first option, but if the bastard runs after you and you have the ability...teach him a lesson.

[Evil GIR]

I tried under CCTV, but I sliped and was seriously out of breath, I ended up slipping droping my phone and by the time I got up he grabed it and ran. I just need to be fitter so i can at least out run him

But at this point he knew I called the cops and was unarmed, but everyone I have spoke to including the police have told me that even if i think I can take em easily, its better and safer just to not fight.

[fireflywa]

Originally Posted by Evil GIR

I tried under CCTV, but I sliped and was seriously out of breath, I ended up slipping droping my phone and by the time I got up he grabed it and ran. I just need to be fitter so i can at least out run him

But at this point he knew I called the cops and was unarmed, but everyone I have spoke to including the police have told me that even if i think I can take em easily, its better and safer just to not fight.

Yeah, of course. Well, you now have one hell of a story that you can tell for the rest of your life. Congratulations

[Nagognog2]

I still wish George Bush would break into my house - or try to mug me on the sidewalk without his fucking Secret Service entourage.

[Nagognog2]

One last piece of advice. If you HAVE to fight - use a little trick from martial arts training. Show person you fist. If you are a rightie - show left fist. They will focus on that. Show it low like you're going to punch 'em in the belly. This way they will block low. Now hit 'em with your right. The adam's apple (larnyx) or bridge of nose are good targets. Down they go. Kick the shit out of their genitals and run like hell.

[Nature Boy]

^^^

Additionally stance can be very important if one is to attempt a move like that. Have your dominant foot behind, supporting your weight, your other leg outwards and to the side. Even this simple maneuver can throw an opponent off balance to the point where a proper strike isn't even needed. A larger foe can be floored considerably easy using the method too. This is one of the first moves they teach in judo.

Ha, we should start a self-defence techniques for stoners thread.

[Sky Walker]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Ha, we should start a self-defence techniques for stoners thread.

You really should, don't forget about the elbow/forearm strikes, they are immensely powerful and very easy and quick to execute.


Had some guy start on me last night, just because I was singing (John Frusciante, oh yea), ha what a wank stain. He would have eaten the elbow (repeatedly) had he not been held back. After all his mates left the scene though, he was very apologetic, even though he thought I kissed his girlfriend, which I didn't. What a psycho Good times...


Nice advice Nag, i'll be using that if I ever need to.

[lulz]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Additionally stance can be very important if one is to attempt a move like that. Have your dominant foot behind, supporting your weight, your other leg outwards and to the side.

For what it's worth, the information above is very valuable. Use your weak hand to diagonally block your stomach and upper chest, and use your strong hand to strike. When you punch, keep your thumb up and your hand relaxed until the last moment, then squeeze your fist right before you strike. Ideally aim for the jaw straight on, there are nerves behind it that if struck hard enough will knock them out cold. If you're not confident of your aim, just try and hit the center of the face. If you hit the nose, it'll temporarily leave them in a wave of pain, and that's the perfect time to go for dirty shots: kicks at the kneecaps for example.

Like Nature Boy said though, it's very important to have your stronger foot behind you, because the force you apply to the other person will be pushed back against you too. If you're on weak footing, you'll fall on your ass and you're fucked.

Best advice though if you're not confident about your chances is to just run. It's not cowardly, it's logical.

[Nagognog2]

ext Up: Spinning wheel-kicks to eardrums....

[Creeping Death]

You shouldn't run or resist when you're being mugged by someone who's armed. Just give them what they want and the situation will be over.

You should only try to run if you think that the guy will hurt you no matter what.

[towelie]

if that had happened to me, said mugger would have a 125 gr. hollowpoint between his eyes

[Evil GIR]

Well Swim don't carry weapons, Swim shouldn't have to but even if he did then what ?
Swim has a knife fight to the death and one of us ends up behind bars while the other is dead and buried. Swim could of taken him though, at the time Swim thought it was far to dangerous to fight someone with a knife.

Anyway, the police have him though swim is still waiting for his phone and stuff back from the police station, there taking there time.

[hh339]

Hit first, hit HARD multiple times, and keep on pounding. Telescopic batoons with steel will do the trick if it's the kind off asshole that just wont go down. Trust me.

My advice would still be run thou, if circumstances allow so.

[zera]

Sorry to hear about that, swim had a similar experience happen to him a few months ago. Walking home from a bar only a few blocks from his flat, he was black out drunk and forced into a car of some pretty shady characters. Imagine blacking out and coming to in the back of a car of some Jamaican lunatics who are driving you into the heart of the ghetto and demanding that you empty your bank account at the nearest ATM.

After two ATMs didnt work (because they were in the shit ass ghetto), one of the thugs kept telling swim all the bad shit that he was going to do to him if his card didnt work on the next one. He was a real scary dude too, he wasnt manic or yelling like you would expect a common criminal, he was just real smooth saying things like: Hey buddy, I hope for your sake that the next ATM works or it wont be good news for you, if you know what I mean.

Well after getting out at the next ATM swim sprinted away at probably the fastest speed he ever has gone in his life, but due to his extreme drunkness stumbled and really hurt himself (but thank God still managed to get away). The only bad part was that swim had to walk fourty blocks to get out of one of the worst areas of America at 2 in the morning (did swim mention he was white and wearing a polo shirt), he was lucky that he fell and hurt himself because probably everyone he walked past thought he was a deranged lunatic on PCP or something. The police say swim probably wouldnt be alive if he tried to fight instead of run, so I think you did the right thing by bolting it.


A pretty frightening experience no doubt, but at least swim has a nice cover story if MDMA gets approved to treat ptsd

[Potter]

A few years ago a friend of mine got mugged and while the scum was putting his ill-gotten loot in his wallet my friend spied some other bills. Twenty minutes later when the cops got the guy my friend told them he stole $200 (rather then the $30 he actually did) and we had a most excellent night. Just a bit of advice for the future...

Love.
Potter.