Does God Agree With Drugs?

[123_456]

i have been thinking and asking myself the same question do youthink god is looking down on us and feeling dissapointed because we do drugs or not? i would like to hear some comments about it. i personally i think that god just doesnt want us to hirt someone else but whats your opinion.

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Good thought inspiring question. Good thread my man.

[Curtains]

second what does this have to do with dissociatives....please post in the right forums from now on

[RoboCop]

If there is a god, then he is responsible for everything made on this planet. I believe as the ancient tribes around the world did all the herbal ethnogens where put here for us to use as a tool see god like visions and to be intouch with god and/or nature. Drugs have been used by religous tribes for who knows how long.You think they where frowned upon by god? I think not. He wouldn't have made marijuana, magic mushrooms, etc. if he didn't want them used.....right? As for drugs made by man who knows, thats a different story.
Of course these are all thoughts from an atheist however. But I have much respect for the indians as well as all before us who have used ethnogens and natural drugs. Its not god who despises the use of drugs just the government who do not want us to do them, and of course they would say it is against god, they would say anything to get us to stop using drugs. For example (sorry im strayign from topic but this needs to be said) remember in the early 1930's I think it was? The U.S. stated marijuana use would make men grow breasts. (no joke) They stated this as scientific fact along with a bunch of obsured accusations.

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good post, interesting points

[Hazewayz]

god loves drugs...thats why he put them here of course...








and he loves that cannabis so dont egt it twisted!

[Bodhisattva500]

My god wants me to experience everything he created.....and drugs are on that list

[fletch]

in order to see god and talk to him you need to be really tweaked out, so therefore he must agree with drug use, but personally i think religion is a joke. i think religion destroys more lives and tears families apart quicker than any drug.

[cyberfunk]

I agree with RoboCop. Drugs were put on earth to be used to experience life in different ways. It helps you gain a different perspective on things. I find taking drugs as a way for me to escape into my own little world.


as for religion, i disagree with you fletch. I think religion gives people something to believe and hold onto if they don't have anything else. Though religion is the main cause of war.

[Maxamillion]

Agree w/ Robocop. "God" does not make mistakes- (for the "believers")...

[Paderas]

I don't believe in "god" as if it is a big old fat man sitting on a
cloud watching over us, but i believe in something between this life
and the next that i'd define as "god"...

I also like writing "god" insted of God because noone on this planet
has the faintest idea of what they're actually talking about, and if
you think you do feel free to enlighten me!

[P!MPJU!C3]

Maybe drugs r the modern tree of wisdom in the garden of eve.

[xawego]

Don't believe god and don't like churches...they ring their bells to early at sundaymorning...i hate that if that noise wake me up...but if there is really a god...i wanna meet him and like to get high with him

[philoscybin]

I'm an atheist but if I were to believe in anything it'dbeSpinoza'spantheistic view of God, in fact I find myself agreeing or just pondering many of its concepts in accordance with my atheism. I'm certain many of you guys, if you haven't allready heard of pantheism, would be interested in taking a look at it.
http://members.aol.com/Heraklit1/spinoza.htm#definition
http://www.pantheism.net/

[Triple7]

When God created earth and everything else.. he saw that EVERYTHING is good.



You saw that?? EVERYTHING!! that means the opportinuty to do sins is
good.. that devil is on earth is good. The possibility that we get wars
is good.



Drugs are good.. definately!!!

[Pinkavvy]

yes, god loves drugs. we're all probably just part of some god's acid or salvia trip. lol

no seriously .... nothing is ture, everything is possible.

[Pinkavvy]

er...

nothing is true, everything is possible.


(wish there was an edit button)

[MorbidFantasy]

I think Im supposed to be alowd to explore diffrent universes. I'm supposed to see things in a diffrent way. But some people cant seem to understand that. I defintly think shrooms and weed were put on this planet to explore. They are natural. God wants you to do it!


I'm a little high right now so I apoligize.

[philoscybin]

I think Im supposed to be alowd to explore diffrent universes. I'm supposed to see things in a diffrent way. But some people cant seem to understand that. I defintly think shrooms and weed were put on this planet to explore. They are natural. God wants you to do it!


I'm a little high right now so I apoligize


Well I don't think God really cares either way, since he doesn't exist IMO. True, shrooms and weed are natural in the sense that they exist without having been originally man-made, but technically everything is, including synthetic chemicals, air pollution, or even the destruction of mankind; in that if something exists it is natural. We as humans act accordingly just as all organic and inorganic matter creates its own essence whether molecularly intentional/predetermined or through quantum mechanical chance/ andfree-will. Humans are no more important than a rock or piece of lint, b/c through the objectivelaws of the universe, importance does not exist. To the universe, we are just another assortment of matter. One can argue, that humans are too complex in design to have been created out of randomness. But imagine hypothetically speaking, there exists an everlastingcomputer that is programmed to hit random keys all over the keyboard for an eternity. Would there not be a time in which the computer would actually type out sentences, phrases, words, or even great literary works out of complete chance, much like a universe at which infinitely exists could eventually create something as complex as mankind. It's hard for people to comprehend the possibility considering they are the subject at present.


I too amreally stonedright now and I've allready forgotten what I just wrote. I'll check later I guess. Damnit it's 4:30 AM, Xmas morning, I better get some sleep before my younger brother nags me out of bed in a few hoursto open gifts.

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Smartly drawn conclusion.

[Bloodsh3d]

Philocybin, in your above post you pretty much summed up my entire beliefs on existence and such, i just never knew how to express it as well as you.. thank you ^_^.

[xctico]

No substance or object by itself is good or bad. But anything that is used in an abusive way is.

What does God think about drugs, he did make them. He did consider all things to be good after creating them.

When he was amongst us he did drink wine [alcohol is a drug]. I guess
the difference relies on wether you're using or abusing drugs.

[Dr_H]

This is what I say when the Jehova Wittnesses come to my door and never with any offense intended. They ask me if I have questions about God. I say God is perfect and never makes mistakes right? They agree. I say Man makes mistakes and is not perfect rigtht? They agree. I say If God puts plants on this earth for man to use and Man makes these plants illegal. . Should we follow Mans law or Gods will? They then try to say that God does not want us to pollute our bodies with drugs. I say So a drug is a substance that you put into your body that changes the way you feel, think or act. They agree. I say like Alcohol, ciggarettes, caffene, sugar and McDonalds. Usually by now they don't want to play anymore and they say something like Well we have other people to see now goodbye. I don't do this in a mean or spitefull way. I am not trying to get them to abandon their religion, just to think about it.

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Good points

[aMorphius]

Dr H, unfortunately I no longer have tha patience that you have. I just
stare at them and then slam the door!
But on a metaphysical level, it's hard to ignore the fact that so many
plants have mind altering chemicals in them; and so many other plants
have yeast on them that naturally convert them to alcohol. If God doled
all of this out, then his intentions are clear! But as the Budists say: " All
things in moderation; including moderation!"

[hard2core]

Uhm, just so everybody knows, Yes, I agree with drugs...


and Yes, I am god.


Nuff said!

[xctico]

Originally Posted by aMorphius

Dr H, unfortunately I no longer have tha patience that you have. I just

stare at them and then slam the door!

But on a metaphysical level, it's hard to ignore the fact that so many

plants have mind altering chemicals in them; and so many other plants

have yeast on them that naturally convert them to alcohol. If God doled

all of this out, then his intentions are clear! But as the Budists say: " All

things in moderation; including moderation!"

I think most of
the outrage in society against drugs nowadays is more of a cultural
thing. And a perfect example of people trying to enforce what they
think is right into others by blaming it on God. Try "Jesus doesn't
drive SUVs".

I mean, look at noah, right after leaving the ark he plants a vine to get wasted!



Why would it be right to use drugs for beating sickness, but not for
any recreational pourpose. They ain't safe? Then make one that is!



Ohh yeah, hard2core, you're not god, you're just too high or something.

[sunyata]

Just one question: Even if God should exist, does that mean you have to be a slave to his will? I think the fucker created us with free will for a reason, he wants us to do what we feel is right. I guess I'm more on the side of Gautama Buddha who said that the Gods are as bound to the weel of life as us, they simply exist on a higher plane, and therefore they can not help us achieve liberation, which every being must find in itself. And if God wanted you to act in a certain way, shouldn't he have the curtacy of sharing this wish with you directly, not through a bunch of middle men?

[jatzstoned]

Originally Posted by Dr_H

This is what I say when the Jehova Wittnesses come to my door and never with any offense intended. They ask me if I have questions about God. I say God is perfect and never makes mistakes right? They agree. I say Man makes mistakes and is not perfect rigtht? They agree. I say If God puts plants on this earth for man to use and Man makes these plants illegal. . Should we follow Mans law or Gods will? They then try to say that God does not want us to pollute our bodies with drugs. I say So a drug is a substance that you put into your body that changes the way you feel, think or act. They agree. I say like Alcohol, ciggarettes, caffene, sugar and McDonalds. Usually by now they don't want to play anymore and they say something like Well we have other people to see now goodbye. I don't do this in a mean or spitefull way. I am not trying to get them to abandon their religion, just to think about it.

lol, its funny talking to those poor bastards, especially when you catch them off guard in a comment, my dads really religious , he just doesnt go to church, but anyways, he always asks them questions about so much shit every time they come that they leave screaming at him, lol