Opinions - Smoking and Cheese? Need help badly!

[freeze2000]

My brother recently went throw drug therepy, being the younger brother I feel like I am constantly watching over him, basically being the big brother.

He had a coke problem, has done all the drugs, but claims he has been clean sense he got out of therepy which was about a month ago. Hes been acting strange lately asking me when im going to bed 2-3 times a night, been going to the bathroom 6-7 times which is by the basement cellar were he smokes, but i've heard he doesn't piss or shit. He is doing something but I don't want to walk in.


I recently came upon someone talking to him and got mad at him and told him to go smoke "cheese". What is this? I noticed my cheese is getting lower and lower.

And his usual pot smoking place/ coke is in the basement in our cellar. I have been snooping over and saw some silica gel there to.. Not sure if this is related or anything but might as well ask. Im actually 18, never done anything in my life except drink. I don't know much.



-footnotes


-brother is smoking cheese? wtf is that explain
-Silica gel? have anything to do with smoking?

Help is appreciated. I don't know were to post this so I would figure I would post it here. Thanks.

[hh339]

Isn't cheese like an opiate mixed with something else? Think so but SWiM is so very stoned so he might be wrong. But smoking actual cheese from the fridge would not get anyone high, I hope. LOL. Sorry about your situation though, I hope it works out somehow.

Btw, did he want help or was he forced into treatment?

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by hh339

Isn't cheese like an opiate mixed with something else? Think so but SWiM is so very stoned so he might be wrong. But smoking actual cheese from the fridge would not get anyone high, I hope. LOL. Sorry about your situation though, I hope it works out somehow.

Btw, did he want help or was he forced into treatment?

as above, swia heard cheese being an indica/sativa cannabis strain. or maybe he jus loves cheese. the silca gel could be used to dry perhaps something that has not dried yet ie: fresh cannabis buds..

[freeze2000]

Well I somehow think hes doing somethink with cheese, it involves smoking somehow maybe.


But as rehap he wanted help, he has been having many problems lately and been trying to get help with all of them. He basically has no self discipline, he doesn't want to smoke/do any hardcore drugs, but sense we live in such a area were it is so easy to access its so tempting for him he can't really say no even though he wants to. My parents think that it has something to do with out genetics how our family is from a "generation of alcoholics" and theres "alcoholism and addiction in our family" but i've always been tempted but said no. Its all in the mind I believe.

And thanks ;p

[freeze2000]

Hmm thanks so far, and another weird thing is once he does it it doesn't smell like it used to. So something is kinda fishy.

[Ontherooftops]

Well, the only thing swim can think of that "smoking cheese" would be would be smoking a mix of diphenhydramine and black tar heroin, commonly refered to as "cheese". The diphenhydramine is usually used to make the black tar into a snortable powder, as well as potentiate the effect of the H.

I doubt your brother is in fact smoking cheese of the dairy or the opiate variety at all though. Most likely that was a "go give a cow a rimmer" kind of insult, cause cheese heroin is pretty nasty shit and smoking it is extra nasty.

From how it sounds from what you've said, he's waiting for you to go to bed so he can ingest some kind of substance, the silica gel indicating some kind of pill probably, but i think you're going to just have to try to let it go a little.

Watch over him and take care of him, but be aware of the fact that you can't force someone to stop using, and that he has to make that decision on his own.

[keats]

You need to be talking to/asking your brother about this stuff, not us. It's good you want to watch over him but it's his decision, and you either need to confront him or let him do what he's gonna do. Either way snooping on him and trying to figure stuff out behind his back isn't going to do any good.

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Good point

[Purest]

In SWIM's area a few dealers sell a strain of weed called "cheese" im not entirely sure how they get it, but its just like normal weed but has an odour which resembles cheese, it leaves very little in the way of scent after its smoked so theres a chance your brother may be smoking this form of cheese.

[starway]

well yeah cheese is a cannabis strain, thats commonly found in the UK.
but saying it leaves no smell after it is smoked is absurd. its one of the stinkiest strains unless swiy gets poorly grown cheese.
and for the record it doesn't really smell like cheese to me unless were smelling different cheeses lol
anyway ask him about it if ure that worried but don't come across all negative when approaching him, be interested and understanding.

for instance ask him what cheese is! and say u herd a friend from school talking and he said he had some cheese the other night, but u weren't sure what he meant by cheese.
that way he might want to tell u what it is to inform u rather than rat himself out. if he thinks ure interested in trying it he might be more wiling to open up.

Hope that helps

[geezaman]

SWIMs only knowledge of cheese and drugs , would either be to eat dairy cheese (cheddar etc) while high on cannabis. or a variety and slang term, a dealer might say a certain type of cannabis was, SWIM helped out a friend not long ago who needed a little cash to buy some " amazing blue cheese" according to SWIMs friend the cannabis was blue in color and extremely potent... SWIM said nothing but had a little giggle later, in fact as suspected it was normal in color and potency, but the smell was extremely strong.... like the smell of blue cheese,

as for silica gel, where would SWIY expect it to be kept?, TO SWIM it seems like the sort of thing kept in cellars, under sinks, and in garages.

The fact SWIYs bro is asking about when SWIY will be going to bed etc does sound suspicious, agreed
It is really good that SWIY cares about your brother, but if he has had to face difficult shit and drug issues recently, the last thing he prob wants is people checking up on him, for many people drugs and their use are an expression of their independence and freedom, but also one they often have to hide from friends and family. I'M not saying that is every drug users first motive, or that it is true for everyone, but if it was in anyway part of the pleasure he found in drugs, having people trying to catch him out, trying to help him through it (showing to him that they obviously think he cant deal with it and needs their help, and is thus reliant on them) might just make him more frustrated.

good luck, hope it all turns out well,
geezaman

[thrackelsby]

Well, cheese is a drug, though one doesn't appear to smoke it. It sounds pretty nasty, a combination of crushed cold medicine and heroin. It appears to mostly target young children, and several deaths apparently have been attributed to it.

Link to the Wiki article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_(recreational_drug)

Gosh, think of the people who sell this shit to 9-yr olds... There are some truly terrible people in this world.

[kingspade42o]

i live in florida and all over the world slang for drugs changes as you go east or west. "cheese" here is a slang term for weed thats ben diped in embolming fluid and laced with crack. lol, i swear. if he's smoking that "cheese", bitch needs to go back to rehab.

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please say something thats at least factual...

[static_vodka_420]

Originally Posted by thrackelsby

Well, cheese is a drug, though one doesn't appear to smoke it. It sounds pretty nasty, a combination of crushed cold medicine and heroin. It appears to mostly target young children, and several deaths apparently have been attributed to it.

Link to the Wiki article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_(recreational_drug)

Gosh, think of the people who sell this shit to 9-yr olds... There are some truly terrible people in this world.

sence when is tylenol pm a cold medicine?

[Jack86]

yeh over here in the uk its just a strain of weed, a higher class smoke than your average pond weed or grit weed.

[VitaminK22]

Considering ur bro had a coke addiction, Swim would have to say that he is smoking crack - the smokable form of coke, but you said he calls it cheese and the only thing swim knows thats called cheese (except cheese itself) is a strain of very nice weed

When coke is left out openly, it absorbs water vapour in the air and makes the coke go damp, one way to make it go normal again so you can sniff it is by putting it into an airtight container with some silica gel beads, this could explain them, but the same method could be used for drying weed, though you could just put weed in a warm place to let it dry without going through the bother of finding silica gel from somewhere.

If it was swims bro then swim would just walk into his room when hes doing it, that way you can see the truth with your own eyes

[biggpri]

here in texas, "cheese" refers to black tar heroin that has been converted into a powder by combining it with diphenhydramine (which is an antihistamine found in medicines like tylenol p.m.) it is normally snorted, but i assume it can be made into a smokable form through an amateur chemical process. that may explain the gel. i don't know for sure, as my experience with this particular drug is limited. either way, snooping around is not advisable, as it can breed distrust and resentment in both you and your brother. the best method is to have an honest, calm, face to face talk.

[CandiGirl]

SWIM would say SWIYs brother is either taking cheese heroin, or he and his friends call Crack Cocaine "Cheese", because of the resemblance of a rock of crack to a tiny piece of cheese.

SWIM has never heard of anyone using cheese (dairy) to get high on.

Silica Gel is used to keep moisture away from products that will deteriorate from the presence of moisture while it is stored... In this situation, this could be tablets, some form of powder etc... Silica Gel is not suitable for Human Consumption.

SWIM feels that maybe SWIY should have a long talk to SWIys brother and ask him directly what drugs he is taking... This will be hugely beneficial if he ODs or similar and medical treatment is needed, as it will cut the need for a long drawn out Toxicology test to decipher what SWIys brother has taken, this will give valuable time and could save his life. Tell him that although he may well like to keep it to himself, you are very concerned for his life and explain the reason above about how it will be usefull for SWIy to know. Also tell him that you will keep all that he has told SWiy confidential and that you will only divulge this information if the situation is life threatening or similar...

Good Luck.

[moda00]

Yes, I think it refers to smoking crack- this will leave a strange odor, and if someone has a coke problem it is likely they might progress to smoking it. Here in the midwest the term "cheese" is used for crack cocaine, rather than saying crack which is shady, one would say "you got any cheese" or "let's smoke some cheese." I don't recommend it though. Any updates from OP? Hope swiyour brother is doing okay, that can be hard. Just do your best to look out for him while realizing that he has to be ready in order to quit.

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Agreed

[chinpokomaster]

From wikipedia -

Smoked cheese is any cheese that has been specially treated by smoke-curing. It typically has a yellowish-brown outer "skin," which is a result of this curing process.

Smoke curing is typically done in one of two ways: cold-smoking and hot-smoking. The cold-smoking method (which can take up to a month, depending on the food) smokes the food at between 70° to 90°F. Hot-smoking partially or completely cooks the food by treating it at temperatures ranging from 100° to 190°F. Another method of "curing" used in less expensive cheeses is to use artificial smoke flavoring to give the cheese a smoky flavoring and food coloring to give the outside the appearance of having been smoked in the more traditional manner.

Some smoked cheeses commonly sold include smoked Gruyère, smoked Gouda, Rauchkase, Scamorza and smoked Cheddar.

In conclusion, your brother probably has some smoke-curing apparatus set up in the basement and is producing some of the finest Gouda for your birthday. I think his cultural appreciation of fine cheeses may be wasted on a philistine such as yourself, though. :P

[CandiGirl]

Mmmmm smoked cheese!! ((Belly growls in the distance!))