Which is more euphoric GBL vs GHB ?

[flying4443]

Hey guys,

Have been doing GBL for approx 2 years now but have yet to convert it to GHB but have been wondering now wether it would be worth it? Would like to
hear from anyone with experiences

Cheers

[Psych0naut]

GHB all the way! GBL is more sedating for SWIM, and has less of the warm bodyglow and euphoria GHB has. GBL is also more nasty to consume, a big downside for him.

[dutch-marshal]

GHB is much better my hamster told me he got like a euphoric feeling allot like E but that much softer...

my hamster loves the stuff ^^

[supe]

GBL can be hard on the body, stomach and intestine lining etc, GHB is the way to be

[raven3davis]

GBl does the trick sometimes for SWIM but sometimes he likes GBL. It just depends how your body reacts to it but gbl is more intoxicating and GHB does feel cleaner. There are times which swim enjoys each feeling.

[Pino]

SWIM only notice GBL is kicking in faster and harder than GHB. It also seems to act longer than GHB.

He doesn't think it is really different. GHB feels somewhat smoother, because of the slower onset. If SWIY doesn't like the fast onset of GBL, GHB is the better choice. However this is swim's own experience.

SWIY can also change his intake scheme to achieve the same; instead of taking 2 ml at once, just take a 4 shots of 0.5 ml in 2 hours time. The onset isn't so harsh and most sedating and intoxicating effects will be absent. SWIM usually drinks it mixed in some grenadine with 5 ml GBL dissolved in 1 liter of water, so one glass is 1 ml. It taste fine, the GBL taste is disappeared completely.

[rikard]

I really don't see why people can say GHB is different than GBL. Its maybe just me but the effects are exactly the same, only difference is GBL has faster onset and lasts a little longer. Both very nice.

[Pino]

Originally Posted by rikard

I really don't see why people can say GHB is different than GBL. Its maybe just me but the effects are exactly the same, only difference is GBL has faster onset and lasts a little longer. Both very nice.

Exactly because of that, the whole gbl onset is faster and harder, so it is more unexpected. People's initial mindset in respect to ghb will differ, therefore the drugs effect are perceived differently. The taste can also negatively affect the experience.

[chemlove]

SWIM told me that GHB is the way to go, but that GBL is a great substitute if you can't find GHB. SWIM also told me that GBL is tougher on the body and dosen't have that overwhelming factor that most researcher's are looking for in test results.

[Lehendakari]

If the synth is made properly, GHB is better in SWIM's opinion, for your stomach and for the taste of GBL. However the experiences are very similar to him, same onset, duration, peak and body buzz.

The shitty taste of GBL makes conversion worth it.

[raven3davis]

SWIM don't see why everyone complains about the taste of GBL. It really is not bad at all. SWIM just put 2ml and mix it with a shot of cola or juice and downs it all at once.

SWIM does not see how taste alone can justify converting it.

[Pondlife]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

SWIM don't see why everyone complains about the taste of GBL. It really is not bad at all. SWIM just put 2ml and mix it with a shot of cola or juice and downs it all at once.

SWIM says that it's not really "taste" as such but the burning and irritating sensation as the primary issue, with the burnt plastic smell/taste being secondary. Dilution can help this quite a lot: SWIM finds that a ratio of 1:50 is still quite irritating, while 1:250 (e.g. 2ml in half a litre of water) is much less of a bother to get down. I cannot understand how people are able to drink it neat, but I understand that some do: rather them than me is all I can say.

However, just getting it down is only half the battle. SWIM finds that it irritates the mouth and doesn't sit very well in the stomach. He's never actually vomited though, so it's not that bad. Perhaps this is just a personal thing, like some people can eat a vindaloo without a problem whereas others need a couple of lagers just to down a chicken tikka.

Finally there is the nagging worry that the irritant properties of GBL may have some long term effects on the digestive tract.

[Lehendakari]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

SWIM don't see why everyone complains about the taste of GBL. It really is not bad at all. SWIM just put 2ml and mix it with a shot of cola or juice and downs it all at once.

SWIM does not see how taste alone can justify converting it.

That depends on the person, SWIM can't bare the taste. Others can. Convertion is so easy that the little effort you have to do is definitely worth it. SWIM didn't have problems downing 2 ml with a glass of orange juice at first, but redosing and taking it a few more times makes it now unbearable. If SWIM doesn't covert it now he gets nausea, even the smell makes him sick.