Snorting heroin vs. snorting painkillers

[keats]

Let SWIM preface this by saying he has never IVed heroin or anything else so he can't speak for that, he's sure it's totally different. He has, however, had pretty extensive experience with popping, railing, and very occasionally smoking a lot of opiates, heroin included. SWIM was shocked when he tried railing heroin after years of snorting every stripe of synthetic opiate to find it didn't feel that different at all. He'd never bought into that "oxycontin is just pharmecutical heroin" shit until he tried h, but after experimenting with snorting a bag every week or two for a few months he didn't feel any real difference from his PK habit.

He felt less anger than on oxy, and had fewer side effects, but he didn't have any more trouble stopping abruptly than he did with PKs and never had any withdrawls. Over the summer he's in a different location where h is harder to get and painkillers are easier, but he declined to do either because PKS are too expensive to be worth it here and hasn't in several months.

SWIM will be returning to the city in the fall, a city which has very good and fairly cheap heroin and obscenely expensive (litterally probably 20 times more expensive, to give an idea without naming prices) that's good for snorting. He wants to continue snorting opiates occasionally, and given he gets less side effects like constipation and it's much less expensive he doesn't see why he shouldn't use h instead of painkillers. But he just read a bumped thread here about snorting h with 500 horror stories (not that he hadn't heard a million before, of course) and it gave him a little pause.

SWIM isn't looking for a line of current/former junkies to tell him heroin is really fucking addictive and nasty to get hooked on, he knows that. He doesn't need anyone to tell him snorting can lead to shooting, he knows that too. What he would look to hear is from of anyone who's had experience with only snorting heroin and/or someone who's transitioned from painkillers to heroin or vice versa. Anyone had success with occasional, insufflated only use? Anyone gotten seriously addicted without ever shooting? Anyone else compared railing heroin vs. painkillers who had similar feelings as SWIM, or a totally different ones?

SWIM thinks it would be interesting to have a heroin thread about slightly less hard core use than most of the stuff on this forum, which seems pretty devoted to junkie or at least regular injectors. Post any experiences or personal stories here.

[Rio Fantastic]

Swim has found that painkillers bring more euphoria then morphine and heroin, which give more of an orgasmic body feeling. However, many people can get addicted to painkillers, especially oxycontin, because the euphoria is just so good.

[Ontherooftops]

Swim's octopus still prefers a good fat line of oxycodone to any other opiate he's tried, shooting H included. Oxy just feels better, and definately hooked him worse. The only reason swim would choose H over Oxy would be that H is usually considerably cheaper.

[donnie]

Swim has never snorted Heroin. Hes only ever chased that dragon or injected in the old days.
Swim has tried every thing there is to try. Even Opium from the northern mountains of Thailand.
Swim is currently on Oxycontin for pain relief but was on Morphine Sulphate, Methadone, Subutex.....you name it.
Chewing 3 x 30mg Morphine pills and washing down with a double vodka & redbull when you have no tolerance to opiates is very euphoric.
Swim rates digging a snow-ball (speed-ball) as the ultimate but your messing with life doing that stuff.
Although swim has promised himself one last snowball before he leaves this earth.
Swim has a very high tollerance to opiates at the moment but would love to know what its like to stick 3 - 4 of his 40mg Oxy's in a pesil & morta, get rid of that horrid coating and snort the remaining powder. Swim would like to feel the out come with no tollerance?

[Oxycontin]

SWIM has snorted a lot of oxy, and recently a bit of H. Both are great, and subtly different.

Heroin seems to be a stronger body high, makes you feel warm and comfortable. It chills you out and makes you feel mad relaxed and OK.

Oxy makes your body feel good too, but not as much as H. It can make you itch though, for some people this can be annoying, for SWIM it wasn't bad. But oxy has a very euphoric high. Snorting oxy brings you out of whatever mood your in, and immediately makes you feel better. Swim would be feeling down, tired, bored, in pain, anxious, etc., and as soon as he snorts a line of oxy (20-40mgs usually) he just feels like everything is OK. Swim loves crushing them up and snorting them in the car on the way home from buying them, because he cant even wait to get home. He rails a line out of the dollar bill he crushed them in and starts feel awesome.. listening to the radio and laughing and joking about shit with his friends. SWIM and his friends have been blowing oxy in the car while driving on the highway at 110mph changing lanes, and in the city were swiw blow that shit behind tinted windows with cops driving right next to us, or at red lights with tons of peds walking right past us, not having a clue what is going on inside that car.

Swim likes nothing more than railing a fat line of oxy, because he likes the way it fucks him up in the head. Heroin is sweet too, but swim will probably always be a bigger fan of Oxy. (swim has a lot more reasons he'd take oxy over heroin than just the difference in high, btw)

[jerbles]

SWIM and his friends have been blowing oxy in the car while driving on the highway at 110mph changing lanes, and in the city were swiw blow that shit behind tinted windows with cops driving right next to us, or at red lights with tons of peds walking right past us, not having a clue what is going on inside that car.

Wow. You must be the coolest person alive...

[donnie]

ha ha ha.............. nice one.