Agony of ecstasy

[I Against I]

SWIM, has abused E daily. Lose 37lbs, cannot hold a conversation, randomly cry. to many done. How can one, to much sweat. IS irreversible.?

[Hyperspaceblastoff]

not completely irreversible
just stay clean sleep and eat well
ull b pretty much back to normal in a few wEEX

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Thank you for that completely baseless assumption.

[Shiacmkmleer]

PM me if you want to talk about it. but you wont last much longer this way, the weightloss or the mental agony will kill you.

[Fantasian]

It's interesting, SWIF tries to use MDMA or E no more than once per month now max, but after a big festival recently he used 1 gram of MDMA over 3 days and had the worst comedown he'd ever felt. It's now 5 days later and he's still suffering pretty harsh effects. SWIF has never experienced much ill effects going passed 3 days!!! He's just sleeping and eating well and keeping on the 5HTP. Think it taught him a lesson though, less is more...

Just hoping he'll feel better soon...

[Psych0naut]

For the ones who go on a binge or take a large amount of MDMA, against advice, a single dose of a SSRI can be very helpful against the serotonine dip.

[Fantasian]

When would one usually dose on this?

[Psych0naut]

Around 5-6 hours after last intake. SWIM took around 400-450mg MDMA in tablets last weekend, and at the end of the night also took 50mg Fluoxetine(Prozac) and he had no serotonin dip at all, he was just a bit tired the next day.

[vantranist]

Intresting, SWIM took around 350mg MDMA daily for a month and a half with little ill effects.

[naatural]

Take lots of 5htp, drink lots of milk, eat lots of chocolate, and hopefully if SWIY remembers any depression is just the drugs talking he won't do anything rash!

[Fantasian]

SWIF uses 5-HTP post MDMA use regularly but was unsure on the SSRI use.

[jesusfreak666er]

one thing that never made sense to swim regarding prozac's use as a post Seritonin blowout easers was that prozac doesn't reach significant plasma levels for a week or two, swim used to be rx-ed to the medication and is curious if the "effects" of a post mdma binge ssri might simply be placebo... if it is it is certainly commonly accepted and felt by many, swim personally has never tried it since he feels the risk of seritonin syndrome isnt worth the risk of something that should not work based on the exceedingly long half life and gradually building blood levels of prozac... any input?

[zetakiel]

A single dose of a SSRI won´t have any effect at all.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by I Against I

SWIM, has abused E daily. Lose 37lbs, cannot hold a conversation, randomly cry. to many done. How can one, to much sweat. IS irreversible.?

Yo! Can we get an update on this? Are you better now?
By the way, I saw in your other posts that you frequently use other substances as well. I see problematic use.

Originally Posted by zetakiel

A single dose of a SSRI won´t have any effect at all.

I don't think so.

It is true that one dose will not help a depression with one pill, SSRI's typically start having full effect after six weeks or so. However, in this case they are used to help cope with ... (something scientific I forgot just now.)

If I recall correctly, it has something to do with the re-uptake of serotonin which would be floating in your system after use of MDMA. This could be damaging to your serotonin..something something receptors. This is inhibited by the SSRI's.

Correct me if I'm wrong. You could also search for it, it's been covered.

I can also add that if you take one SSRI or SNRI you will feel something. A first new dose of an SSRI or SNRI made me very talkative, almost compulsively so.

[zetakiel]

I don´t think that a single dose of a SSRI can have any effect over serotonine or its transporters.
A first new dose of a SSRI doesn´t have any effect at all, trust me im taking paroxetine (40 mg on daily basis) and the first time I took it didn´t feel anything at all.
This kind of medication need time (im talking weeks) in order to work on the serotonine system as oposed to MDMA.
The best medicine after a MDMA binge: sleep-good diet-exercise. Maybe 5-htp but even that seems to be placebo.

[I Against I]

Originally Posted by FrankenChrist

Yo! Can we get an update on this? Are you better now?
By the way, I saw in your other posts that you frequently use other substances as well. I see problematic use.

This head wont work right, im gettin major migranes, the sleeping pattern cannot stay straight, im able to eat now but very light food, rice, and salad. It is kinda hard to function, to walk, to hold a conversation, typing this is pretty hard rite now. This anxiety, depression seems to be gettin deeeper.. I will take all of your advices. Thank you everyoine

[Psych0naut]

Since a single administration of SSRI's block neurotoxic effects of a high dose of MDMA, it seems pretty reasonable that a single administration of a SSRI could have other positive effects as well, and if I'm not mistaken, research has been done about it, and concluded it as effective. Have a look here.

[LossyLegs]

SWIY should stop taking E for a while or if you cannot do that, start doing it only once every 2+ weeks, preferably a month. Start eating a healthy diet, take vitamins everyday, and get a good nights sleep. It will take a while to reverse the effects but it's better than what SWII's going through. Other than this, follow the advice that has already been posted.

[Fantasian]

I see from the reseach that the SSRI seems worth it to prevent the dopamine oxidisation however does anyone know the window of opertunity it can be taken in. 6 hours after? 10 hours after? etc

[Psych0naut]

At around 6 hours after intake would probably be best, the morning after intake would probably be too late, though don't take it earlier than 6 hours after intake, due to possible serotonin syndrome.

[FrankenChrist]

If it gets worse, remember it is probably going to get worse before it gets better. Just don't do anything desperate.
You may have to see a psychiatrist to prescribe you some SSRI's maybe.

[MedicineMan]

If SWIY dont stop this really soon, SWIY has almost no chance of a full mental recovery. This is the point in SWIY's life where SWIY makes or brakes man. I think I can tell that SWIY is just like SWIM except different problems. I cant have just one drink, I have one, I have 15 and I just cant help it. SWIY looks like if they do a little, they do a lot and cant control it, and ive seen that in people in life. SWIY must remove themselves from the envirnment and situation or the chances of stopping are very low. If it means that much to SWIY, maybe a detox to get clean? SWIY shouldnt be afraid to ask for help if needed, especially if it means life. SWIY wont make it much longer on this road, but SWIY gotta want it or it wont work, thats the way it is

[spiderpig]

Isn't mercury used as an amalgamating agent in the synthesis? There is a small chance but it might just be possible swiy may have consumed a certain amount of it. Did swiy often consume the same brand of pill? Because swim once took e everyday for a week and had only minor adverse effects and the occasional seretonin surge, these effects dissipated within a month.