Opium from dried poppy pod

[GForce]

SWIM is thinking about buying some dried pods, initially to make tea with, but he read a few sources that stated using a similar procedure can yield actual opium. From what I've read, it seems as though the procedure is exactly the same for the production of tea, but one finishes it by evaporating the water either by oven or microwave. SWIM is curious if this is even possible, and if it is, what type of settings these devices should be on as well as any changes necessary in the tea procedure.

[vantranist]

I belive its possible, but not with the precedure you gave.

Atleast not a quality product.

From chem forum:http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...658#post190658

[Emmajs]

What you'll get is a concentrated pod putty, close to opium just not smokeable. Check the link given.

[ironmics]

This guy I know had a good idea about a possible smoking solution for putty. He is an avid shisha smoker and thought to himself if the putty was mixed with a bit of shisha and smoked over a period of time that it could have some results. He has not tried yet, but is going to make a few pounds worth of seed putty in the near future.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Emmajs

What you'll get is a concentrated pod putty, close to opium just not smokeable. Check the link given.

it is smokeable on foil, but not so much for opium pipe smoking. this more better for oral consumptions some monkeys powder it finely and snort with some effect, swia not tried she prefers it with strong alcohol to make laudanum for oral use.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by GForce

SWIM is thinking about buying some dried pods, initially to make tea with, but he read a few sources that stated using a similar procedure can yield actual opium. From what I've read, it seems as though the procedure is exactly the same for the production of tea, but one finishes it by evaporating the water either by oven or microwave. SWIM is curious if this is even possible, and if it is, what type of settings these devices should be on as well as any changes necessary in the tea procedure.

i have in fact just recently had some experience with this very same thing you have mentioned.

The dried heads were first ground up to a fairly corse powder (this helps because it makes the surface are of the total much larger for extraction, because alot of small particles will yeild a larger total surface are than one large thing). Then they were steeped in hot (not boiling or bubbling of ANY kind) water for about an hour to extract all of the water soluable substances from the pods. This was then strained thru a coffee filter and ended up being an amber colored liquid. this liquid was then put back onto heat (AGAIN NOT ENOUGH HEAT TO MAKE IT BOIL OR BUBBLE IN ANY WAY) just enough heat to help the water evaporate quicker, enough to make the liquid steam is all you need. once it has almost reached the point of loosing all its water content it was taken off heat and allowed to cool naturally, once it has done this it also looses most the water content it has left. the resulting residue on the bottom of the pot was scraped up and left to dry for a further day or two so that it really had lost the majority of its water content. this was then repeated again but by disolving the resulting residue in 10 times its own volume of water and re-cooked in the same way as above (there is a reason for this - it produces a cleaner more smokable form which is higher in active alkaloid content). this produced a VERY amber colored almost flaked and crystaline residue which was awesome for smoking apparently. these heads or pods, whatever ya wanna call them, were also apparently dried by someones aunt back in 1997, and it STILL worked, heh, who knew huh? cheers.

[Alicia]

[QUOTE=samuraigecko;304964 this produced a VERY amber colored almost flaked and crystaline residue which was awesome for smoking apparently. [/QUOTE]

That is what swiy people should have when they come to smoke it by vaporizing. i.e not heating directly.

very nice and dreamy..

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by Alicia

That is what swiy people should have when they come to smoke it by vaporizing. i.e not heating directly.

very nice and dreamy..

SWIM definably concurs. cheers.

[ironmics]

Originally Posted by Alicia

That is what swiy people should have when they come to smoke it by vaporizing. i.e not heating directly.

very nice and dreamy..

My friend has one of those cheap metal pipes that they have at all head shops. They unscrew so you can change the orientation around. He changed it so you could heat a screen in the bowl from the bottom. This way one could suck the flame close to the opium and not touch it. It was very handy for him.

[TritStyle]

a gnome said that when she evapped tea that the time she got amber powder didnt seem to work as well(on top of weed probably) as when a hard brown putty(barely flexable - much harder then putty) resulted, and was chopped into 1-2mm size pieces and smoked in a makeshift pipe.

Lawn ornament also indicated a (specific, reliable) method of reduction not seen by her on the net:


-Boil water in teapot
-grind pods in a blender
-fill bottom of a french press with pod powder
-fill with water that WAS boiling but now is just below boiling temp(3-5X pod volume of water)
-wait desired time(20 mins) shake and stir as desired
-Pour water into some other temp container
-Clean french press
-More pods in french press
-use the water from before(double extraction)
-pour out water through best available filter
(HERES THE NEW PARTS)
-pour filtered water(hopefully dark) into widest shallow flat bottomed glass pan available
- let sit somewhere for 2 days (probably best dark - gnome left out in light uncovered)
- nasty slimy beige skin forms on the top, filter that crap best u can
- before bedtime, warm up over to lowest setting(170f)
- turn off oven. put shallow pan in and crash out till the next afternoon
- wake up and remember about the oven thing
- scrape whatever u want to call it from bottom of pan into ball(using straight razor blade) and gnomes can get thier buzz on.


Double extraction and filtering the scum off, plus a slow evaporation should leave gnomes with some good shit.

another gnome fave is to make strong tea then make a batch of sugarless ICED tea. The sugar replacements tend to be plenty strong to mask most of any nasty taste, and what gnomes do taste is good because thats proof its going to fuck gnomes up. Buzzed by the end of the first cup and gnomes can stay buzzed all day and night if desired. Good luck, but your gnome has gotta be pretty stupid to fuck this up - peace

TritStyle added 9 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

Reasons for tiny 1-2mm squares or balls is the same as powdering for extraction: more surface area. If gnomes try to burn into a bigger piece of the product, they have to use more heat and destroy the goods before they can consume them. Trust the gnomes, they are experienced.

Also when gnomes get good at doing this PATIENTLY and slowly, they will notice much better results. Also good to leave the brown putty in the sun as this will lower the moisture content. This is how the mideast farmers dry thier shit, so you should too. Too much moisture and gnomes wont be able to vaporize the goods without destroying them. this aint simple but it aint hard. hardest part is being patient. thats why gnomes got good at it, they just sit there all day.