Other - Cocaine substitutes & alternatives

[monkeygone2heaven]

swim's never encountered anyhting actually close to cocaine but if in a country where swiy can legally obtain it as in the usa, propylhexedrine is one obvious choice for a stim.

[alexm23]

What about tobacco snuff? Legal, doesn't do much, tastes good and won't hurt you much.

[bittersweatdillusion]

ok SWIM loves cocaine but cant always afford it so he does not get to do it alot... the yeyo is expensive these days. does anyone know any alternative to cocaine that give the same numbing and speedy and euphoric effect. any preparations of various substances that can be snorted that will give almost the same effect. swim knows it wont be exactly the same but he just need something to curb the cravings that he can either buy or make at home. anyone?

[RashleySmashley]

Oh my, SWIM believes what SWIY is not possible- just wishful thinking many before and after you will have thought! SWIM would advise staying away from glass, even though it's called "poor mans coke", it'll cause fiending and binging in much more excess than coke will. If SWIY has had quality coke, than he, hypothetically, would prob really like to roll- bomber coke is closest to MDMA, and ecstasy lasts longer. Its still not coke, and not something that should be done all the time, but SWIM thinks could be great sometimes- substitute.

[bittersweatdillusion]

thank rashly. swim heard that yohimbine Hcl is very intense and has some of the same effects as yeyo. anyone ever tried it. i like to snort so the Hcl form would be my preference. an insight into this. maybe effects dosage legality dangers. just anything. im a newbie and im learning

[RashleySmashley]

re: "swim heard that yohimbine Hcl is very intense and has some of the same effects as yeyo. anyone ever tried it. i like to snort so the Hcl form would be my preference."

SWIM has heard alot of different things regarding yohimbine and other herbal substances. SWIM doesn't believe that it would mimick a coke high, but SWIM can't say for sure, SWIY would have to check in some of the chem forums. SWIM used to take diet pills with ephedrine (now outlawed), and yohimbine was added in nearly all of the ephedra pills tried. Ephedrine is a base of meth, & the diet pills made SWIM feel speedy but with none of the euphoria meth gives. The yohimbine maybe added to the speedy feeling, but might not alone (SWIM never heard it does, & if it acted like ephedrine, its not like oxidized coke & SWIY will be miserable after a few hours!).

Probably the most that would occur is SWIY might lose a couple pounds!

[pipolito]

mephedrone is kind of similar to good cocaine, recreation-wise

[TinfoilxTouch]

This is an honest SWIM comment, nothing I can attest to personally.
Taking a high dose of Bupropion daily (~300mg) will increase the impact of Ritalin when used, as it helps to prevent the re-absorption of the chemicals Ritalin uses to create its effect.

Ritalin is very close to coke in high enough doses, as SWIM personally says he can attest to. At the same time, it's more difficult and/or expensive (depending on legal vs street purchase) to get enough of it to make it a viable substitute for coke.This is where my friend says the Bupropion helped increase the effectiveness. Mind you, it needs to build in your system and he said it single-dosing it with the Ritalin won't do anything.

So, that's about it in terms of coming close to prescription subs.

[Norman14]

A friend called SWIM, uses coke not to get high but for its energy, sociabilty ease, and getting through boring tasks at work. Would adderall be a good substitute, so SWIM doesnt have to risk getting caught snorting coke at SWIMS job bathroom. Or is there a better substitute that covers SWIMS need to be productive and social at work.

[RashleySmashley]

Sorry for the delayed response! LOL SWIM has had a crazy, unexpected year! How bout any SWIY out there? Anyways, back to the q/a- as SWIM stated before, adderall, ridilin, etc... are all good for energy purposes, probably more so than really good coke, at least they are for SWIM. But the chances are, sadly, pretty fuckin low today in the States that many are doing really pure, oxidized white slut, so both of these head meds would probably help SWIY's fiending; that frenetic energy from quick-brick blow is similar. But watch it, because those above meds are meant to be regulated and can cause lots of longer- lasting jitters and other shit, so maybe it would help at work and school, and maybe it would be bad! SWIM still recom. good rolls to handle coming off good blow, but thats not always convenient in 1 night, is it? There is one thing out that SWIM heard of but hasnt really looked into: clenbuteral (?sp). SWIM read about it in gossip rags and fitness mags, supposedly thats what was prescribed to all those US starlets last year that got down to size -2! Hmmm SWIM dunno, theres nothing new thats being tried in rehabs (to SWIMS knowledge) to help with the recovery of coke and meth like methadone does with opiates.

HAHA SWIM did have to throw this in: SEX, MORE SEX. It releases seratonin and endorphines naturally! Get into a good fuck and you may just fall right asleep afterwards

[Alfa]

There are many substances that affect dopamine receptors similar to what cocaine does. This includes stimulation, intense craving, loss of appetite, high blood pressure, risk on heart problems, euphoria; the whole shebang. Many of these drugs are research chemicals. This means they have not been used to too many people and there is a substantial risk of side effects, since not enough is known about them yet.

Here are some cocaine substitutes:
Fluorotropacocaine
Desoxypipradrol
3-pseudotropyl,4-fluorobenzoate
Diphenyl-2-Pyrrolidinyl-Methanol (diphenylprolinol)
Naphthylisopropylamine

Please see this thread:
Research chemicals as cocaine substitutes (dopamine stimulants)

[sugrluvr]

snorting ritalin

[muidumees]

2h hours on a bicycle. going flat out... if you feel after an hour that you just cannot go on any longer.... just keep pedaling and even faster than before.

seriously, swim used to do something like 60km averaging per day, being able to keep up 40km/h for a full hour and the rush that swim got afterward... well, never having done coke before but after this rush faded away, swim got the first coke craving in his life that has been around ever since. and of course swim has done a fair share of coke afterwards, always getting the flashback of going flat out in the summer sun.

adding a spontaneous intercourse to end it all... a natural coke heaven.

of course, on the contrarary to coke, it takes a lot of effort to reach this level of endurance, when one can keep on going even if feeling like there is battery acid pumping in the veins... and it is nearly as addicitve as coke and in most cases, spening hours and hours in training is not an option for most.

[Pugsley]

Tropacocaine has been suggested as a cocaine substitute, though not legal it can be prepared by using legal precursors. It is enjoyable to snort or smoke and is 1/10 the Toxicity of cocaine.

[tallstorys]

Has anyone on here tried 4-Flourotropacocaine?

How does it compare to coke? I've read that its 0.4x the strength of coke, meaning that it is stronger than most street stuff.
Whats it like to sniff, I hear it burns like a bitch but want to know how bad as some coke can burn like a bitch.
How do the effects compare to coke?

How would a 50mg line compare?

[Kolon]

Due to a drought and poor quality SWIM has decided to knock Coke on the head for a while. He/she has been looking at the various so called 'legals' out there and from the info found it would suggest Blowout Party Snuff could be a slightly credible alternative to Coke. Kanna would be SWIMs first choice but research has shown it it unwise to mix it with SSRIs due to potential Serotonin syndrome.

Anyway those SWIYs who have given Blowout a go what do they think? Especially compared to average quality Coke.

Thanks.

Kolon added 971 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

SWIM reports back and says "Absolute and utter bollocks!"

If there is a drought on quality coke then - do without!

[Benga]

threads merged

think there are a couple of threads in the herbal xtc / legal high section of the forum

[chinpokomaster]

In that case I must have adrenaline in my PANTS.

[allyourbase]

in clinical settings methylphenidate (ritalin) has been shows to be similar, and in some cases indistinguishable from cocaine.

http://biopsychiatry.com/methcomp.htm

[phantyman]

Hello guys.
I would like to ask, maybe some one have information about "Magic powder".That stuff have same effect like coke but weaker.And it not so expensive and how i understood that stuff is ligal(but im not shure) i dont know more about it.If some one understood what about im talking can give me more information.
Thanks

[johnnym]

well, i am not sure what you're talking about, but the name 'magic powder' sounds like some brand of party pill. try google 'party pillz' and you might find something.

[Gradient]

Any other information on this powder? Are you referring to an ethnobotanical or something else?

[Johan73]

Originally Posted by phantyman

Hello guys.
I would like to ask, maybe some one have information about "Magic powder".That stuff have same effect like coke but weaker.And it not so expensive and how i understood that stuff is ligal(but im not shure) i dont know more about it.If some one understood what about im talking can give me more information.
Thanks

Swim did some searching and the main result that seems to show up is for a recent (2009) movie called Freud's Magic Powder. Swim isn't sure if it is what swiy is referencing; the plot summary says Young Freud tries to focus on his medical experiments with a "magic powder" otherwise known as cocaine.

[Benga]

threads merged

[usedagain]

someone mentioned distilling welbutrin...could you elaborate or point to for info on doing such a thing?