Dose - Redosing on Mushrooms

[jhenry]

Hours after ingestion to reup?

SWIM doesn't want to come back after peaking.

Quantities to emulate first breakthrough within a matter of hours? I'm telling SWIM that it's not really possible, but how is it built up, how quickly, and to what extent?

swim ate 2.4g dried shrooms. 15 minutes after ingestion, before any effects were experienced, he got a phone call with some very "bad" (to use subjective judgment tern) news. anyway the combination of trip and bad news was cathartic and swim had some profound realizations. unsurprisingly, he doesn't want to come back just yet. he worries maybe he is avoiding integrating the trip into consensus reality, but he alos feels the trip has been very healing and trying to catalyze further with realizations with more material isn't necessarily escapism. he has 11g of shrooms left. he understands toxicity risk is low, he has a relatively sober sitter, he assumes the biggest risk is he'll vomit (he felt nasueus on initial dose). how much should he take and via what method to attain maximal effect?

thanks and see swiys around.

[fnord]

4?maybe more if you feel comfortable,swim once had a unpleasant lsd experience on 2 doses so he decided to eat a bunch more and force himself to work thru things.have fun and learn.

[Jatelka]

Do NOT take 11g of mushrooms.

Can I please remind all SWIMers, Flamingos, Yaks and other creatures that giving out dangerous advice on this forum is a surefire way to get spanked (or infracted, or whatever) and possibly banned.

[Earlocybin]

If SWIY really wants to extend the trip just eat maybe .5 at a time every hour or so, but don't re-dose big.

[jhenry]

is eating 11g actually dangerous? as i understand, there is virtually no risk of toxicity. 11g probably would have ensured an overwhelmingly intense experience, but that was sort of what swim was after. as it turns out he took an additonal 3.5g in tea form shortly after the question was posted, before any swiy's replied, but i'm curious whether following the advice (which now seems to have been deleted) to eat 11g would have really been dangerous.

incidentally the additonal 3.5g four and a half hours after initial dose seemed to have an effect roughly equivalent to the initial 2.4g.

[Earlocybin]

Originally Posted by jhenry

is eating 11g actually dangerous? as i understand, there is virtually no risk of toxicity. 11g probably would have ensured an overwhelmingly intense experience, but that was sort of what swim was after. as it turns out he took an additonal 3.5g in tea form shortly after the question was posted, before any swiy's replied, but i'm curious whether following the advice (which now seems to have been deleted) to eat 11g would have really been dangerous.

incidentally the additonal 3.5g four and a half hours after initial dose seemed to have an effect roughly equivalent to the initial 2.4g.

Well among other things, extreme doses of psilocybin can cause loss of motor control and even a sort of temporary "total disconnection" from consciousness (a ++++ and beyond experience) and it becomes something totally different than the recreational trips we are familiar with. It goes from being the regular varying pleasant/unpleasant weird and wonderous psychedelic experience to being an uncontrollable roller coaster ride through heaven and hell and at that point there's nothing you can do to stop it I mean if you really REALLY want to get to that level, for whatever reason, at least DON'T consume them all at once but take it in smaller steps (maybe 1-2 grams at a time) as SWIM suggested before so you can gauge if you'll be able to handle it or not.

[KBLSD]

Originally Posted by jhenry

is eating 11g actually dangerous? as i understand, there is virtually no risk of toxicity. 11g probably would have ensured an overwhelmingly intense experience, but that was sort of what swim was after. as it turns out he took an additonal 3.5g in tea form shortly after the question was posted, before any swiy's replied, but i'm curious whether following the advice (which now seems to have been deleted) to eat 11g would have really been dangerous.

incidentally the additonal 3.5g four and a half hours after initial dose seemed to have an effect roughly equivalent to the initial 2.4g.

of course its dangerous never try it its really really really bad advise never eat 11 grams of mushrooms thats really horrible advise and whoever wrote that on this topic is a idot eating 11 grams of mushrooms is the most horrible thing u can ever ever ever do and if u tell someone to eat 11 grams of mushrooms i hope u get a warning

[Earlocybin]

Originally Posted by KBLSD

of course its dangerous never try it its really really really bad advise never eat 11 grams of mushrooms thats really horrible advise and whoever wrote that on this topic is a idot eating 11 grams of mushrooms is the most horrible thing u can ever ever ever do and if u tell someone to eat 11 grams of mushrooms i hope u get a warning

Well SWIM doesn't think it would directly pose any threats of physical danger to the person, except for the possibility of vomiting while semi/unconscious, but you're right about it being really bad advice. The logic a lot of people use is that double, or in this case 11x a regular dose would == 11x the fun, but it doesn't quite work out like that. It's more like x to the 11th power intensity, an exponential increase due to the nature of half-life elimination. Besides that there's other variables like the body's sensitivity to psilocybin, which can have a tremendous effect with an exponential dose increase. SWIM hasn't seen any statistics to back this but here's something he always likes to consider whilst considering a higher dosage, that not only is the intensity of the experience exponentially increased but so are the chances of having a bad trip

[lexmark]

swims friend had his stomach pumped from 7 grams, swim can't even imagine what would happen with 11 heheheh.....


swims limit is 4, after 4 grams he gets audio hallucinations and that just scares him.

[elscorcho717]

I've found that tolerance builds quickly with shrooms and there is actually cross-tolerance with other psychedelics as well, especially LSD in SWIM's experience. I would say in order to have a trip as intense as the one SWIY had you need to wait at least 7 days. Any less and you will have a less intense, and unsatisfying trip, even if you take a higher dosage. Such is the nature of these drugs, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it).

[fnord]

my grandmother trips 1 a week every week on high doses of shrooms and finds a week sufficient to recover.but i think yoir talking about how long to wait to redose teh same dayid say as soon as you peak dose again.how much you want to dose is up to you.

[vantranist]

SWIM DISCOVERD NEVER to redose shrooms, just doesnt work well for him.

He finds 1 trip a week to have almost 0 tolerance.