Opinions - Why Do People Take Benzodiazepines?

[wackncrack]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

SWIM thinks that valium is pretty weak considering .5mg dose of xanax is the equivilent to 10mg of valium. so why take four 10mg valium when all you have to do is take one 2mg xanax bar?

not only that but most people take a couple xanax bars around 4mg. that would be the equivilent to 80mg of valium.

it would make more sense to use xanax. especialy when it comes to liver metabolizing all that valium.

SWIM would think that people would realy only use xanax, rophynol, or klonopin.

would SWIY agree? or is there a reason people still like valium?

valium 5 mgs or 10 mgs swim said is a nicer euphoric however; that it is not the equivalent to oxaxapam (serax) 30 mg's but all mix well swim said when comming down from banging coco (the nut that they are).
for sleeping swim often used 10 or so before the last slam of the night or morning? Unless helcion are available swim mention'd.
what do I know tho...I just listen!

this could all be a dream too?

Life is but a dream

[wackncrack]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

SWIM thinks that valium is pretty weak considering .5mg dose of xanax is the equivilent to 10mg of valium. so why take four 10mg valium when all you have to do is take one 2mg xanax bar?

not only that but most people take a couple xanax bars around 4mg. that would be the equivilent to 80mg of valium.

it would make more sense to use xanax. especialy when it comes to liver metabolizing all that valium.

SWIM would think that people would realy only use xanax, rophynol, or klonopin.

would SWIY agree? or is there a reason people still like valium?

Oh I forgot SWIM said that xanax does (for lack of better english lanuage skills) effects the cerebral differently.

harsher side affects than the v's

what do I know tho
I just listen

[SmokeNmirrors]

Swim with use it here and there for coke comedowns but thats really about it.

[Bajeda]

A certain lab rat I know would say that alprazolam just makes him drowsy and makes him black out easily. Its pretty useless for him as a recreational drug, and he doesn't care to use it as an anxiolytic. Clonazepam is more enjoyable for him and has less side effects, which goes to show how little 'relative strength' means when it comes to subjective effects. Diazepam can make the lab rat sleepy the next day in higher doses, but he finds it to be the most relaxing and enjoyable (especially with a little cannabis) compared to the other two. Its all personal preference based on how the drug affects you. I personally would ask what the point of using alprazolam is, other than to make you forget something or knock you out.

[Steva]

Swim loves to chew vals for that great taste.
You know it's the real thing.
Xanax is a laser shot to the brain which wipes out all anxiety
for 4 hours then oh..oh time to take another.
With Vals you get a 6 hrs mellow calmness which relaxes your whole body.
Swim hopes to try Clonazepam which apparently lasts all day.

[radiometer]

Eddie and his wife use benzodiazepines occasionally for sleep. While he prefers alprazolam, she far prefers diazepam. She says she has much more pronounced next-day effects from alprazolam, which is the opposite of what you'd expect.

Bottom line, benzos can vary quite a bit in their effects from individual to individual.

I used to use Heroin,have smoked once since Aug 06,that was when i had the flu.
Diazepam or Nitrazepam mixed with weed is nice,but can be habit forming as most know.
Im prescribed them to help me reduce my meth script,they help somewhat.
So im careful to only use them for the 1st 4 days of my reduction.
Hope to be off by June latest.

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

SWIM thinks that valium is pretty weak considering .5mg dose of xanax is the equivilent to 10mg of valium. so why take four 10mg valium when all you have to do is take one 2mg xanax bar?

not only that but most people take a couple xanax bars around 4mg. that would be the equivilent to 80mg of valium.

it would make more sense to use xanax. especialy when it comes to liver metabolizing all that valium.

SWIM would think that people would realy only use xanax, rophynol, or klonopin.

would SWIY agree? or is there a reason people still like valium?

I like em because of the way they make me feel.
If you do em daily you build a tolerance,that's no good.
Moderation! Too much of anything is good for nothing.
They have to be cox's

Besides people are different Biochemically,so what works for one won't necessarily work for another.

[Zaprenz]

In terms of the Prescribers - they sometimes prefer lower potency benzodiazepines.

First of all unless the benzo equivalence table is available or easily remembered then it's much easier to accidently prescribe larger relative doses of the potent benzo's

One 2mg Diazepam tablet daily is sometimes prescribed. (It's possible this low a dose is more placebo than effect in some people or equates to far less total benzodiazepine dose on a prescription)

Equivalent xanax dose would be 0.1mg

*In terms of placebo effect people who do not understand potency will think the diazepam is a strong(er) dose.

*In terms of further splitting the 2mg tablets can usually be split in two.


Now with the number of people who are trying to ban benzos or have taken legal action against prescribers it's not really that surprising super low doses, long acting & low total quantity benzos are becoming the preferred option in some cases. It seems self-responsibility is beginning to vanish, "it is always someone else's fault" is leading to a situation where everyone thinks of liability first.

[sweetsugar]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

SWIM thinks that valium is pretty weak considering .5mg dose of xanax is the equivilent to 10mg of valium. so why take four 10mg valium when all you have to do is take one 2mg xanax bar?

not only that but most people take a couple xanax bars around 4mg. that would be the equivilent to 80mg of valium.

it would make more sense to use xanax. especialy when it comes to liver metabolizing all that valium.

SWIM would think that people would realy only use xanax, rophynol, or klonopin.

would SWIY agree? or is there a reason people still like valium?

Apparently xanax is unavailable in the UK
Swim still enjoys a wee handfull of diazee's with a few beers and perhaps a few spliffs, swim would use diazee's/nitrazee's/tamazee's mostly for comedowns but loves the buzz either way ~
Benzo's are great for opiate w/d's too.

[JaWill88]

swim would also ask the question, why would anyone use xanax (alprazolam)? it's got a really short life so it has strong effects which means the line between not enough and too much is very thin. and the only thing that happens when one takes a bit too much is it knocks them out. how fun is that? swim could probably be prescibed to any benzodiazepine available in the US and swim chooses clonazepam. it lasts way longer than alprazolam, it has the same potency as alprazolam, it has muslce relaxing effects alprazolam lacks, and swim just finds it much, much more enjoyable. diazepam (valium) is quite similar in effects and duration to clonazepam and would rather take diazepam any day over alprazolam. the only thing alprazolam seems good for is really taking out anxiety. that's it. swim finds clonazepam to be much more euphoric and for swim that has a lot to do with it's physical effects (muscle relaxation) and just feels a lot cleaner and better to swim. swim has taken clonazepam and alprazolam both, many, many times and once again swim has to say clonazepam feels 1,000,000 times better than alprazolam. oh yeah the only other thing alprazolam is good for is going to sleep.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

it would make more sense to use xanax. especialy when it comes to liver metabolizing all that valium.

Not necessarily. Some people may prefer a benzodiazepine witha longer half life. For general day to day anxiety it is much better than taking a short acting benzo like alprazolam (Xanax). Alprazolam is also very difficult to withdraw from, many people find the diazepam substitution difficult.

[HomerK]

Swim is prescribed .5mg of Clonazepam every day because of paralyzing anxiety. The benzo makes swim feel normal and comfortable.

[Codehead]

SWIM has never taken benzos for medication, he has prescription for xanax. He takes only because it gives him nice feeling, little euphoria. Actually took... SWIM got physically addicted to them, so he stopped. Now he havent used them regulary for almost 3 months, last time he took was 2weeks, he waits one more week then he takes again for two days