Opinions - E-petition to No 10 - Drug testing Them

[Evil GIR]

I am now just waiting for it to be accepted, but here is one I set up. If we hit the 200 signitures, then it gets sent
off and they read it and give us all a reply. I think thoughs bastards should be drug tested anyway. so just wondering
what do you all think ? If it goes through I will post a link for ya.



We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Introduce the random drug testing of all members of parliament and the Police
with the uk


We would like the introduce the random drug testing of all members of parliament with the UK, (including the prime minister)
and police, where the information would be made available to the public. This is to ensure that hypocrisy doesn't run in the UK
and to protect the public from thoughts who deem fit to criminalise the public for something they do them self's.

[Bikelbees]

Not sure about this one! Could it be counter-productive?

[Evil GIR]

I was just thinking that the whole system is corrupt to the point of half the goverment and police are probaly doing drugs but they still trys to push the message that drugs are bad.

So if we could force all of them to stop using, maybe slowly this will force them to change public opinion, either that or they will be caught all the time and make em all look like the jack asses they are.

[Bikelbees]

Could The Information Be Abused?

[Police Officer]

Good luck with that.

But, you might be interested to know that most Police Dept's random test anyway.

[Felonious Skunk]

While it may be hypocrisy for Parliamentary figures to insist the serfs be drug-tested while they themselves enjoy immunity from it, is it not a rather self-defeating form of hypocrisy for those who are opposed to drug-testing to insist that anybody be subject to it?

And all it would do is make the price of Whizzinators go up in London.

If people are doing their jobs competently and safely, then there is no reason to drug-test them, be they carpenters, teachers, police officers, or politicians--though the definition of "competence" as it applies to politicians would necessarily have to be quite accommodating.

[Evil GIR]

Well, here it is : http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/DrugTesting/

I think all drugs should be legal and i am against drug testing, but I think forcing to have mp tested for drugs and alcohol will probably do there heads in, half of them are at the very least probably drunk when they go to work. But its up to yous if ya sign it or not. My aim is to harras them with there own laws, so that it may promt em to change things for the better.

[Felonious Skunk]

Originally Posted by Evil GIR

...But its up to yous if ya sign it or not. My aim is to harras them with there own laws, so that it may promt em to change things for the better.

Evil, don't take my response the wrong way. I support what you're doing as a form of civil disobedience.

In a practical sense, your plan could make some headway since, as you've pointed out, if the jerkoffs that enact drug-testing regulations were forced to live by them, it's entirely possible that they would do away with them because the bottom line is that employment should be based on the ability to do a job and nothing else. If the quarterly evaluation comes in A-OK, it shouldn't matter what one does on Saturday.

But, of course, the real issue is one of social engineering. We train the kiddies that it's impossible for a weekend pot-smoker to come in on Monday and have any idea of where he is, while the reality is the Monday morning pot-smoker often outperforms the Friday-night drunk.

Not to mention the everyday tobacco addict who drains the employee health-care fund and dies at age 45...

[Bananas293]

Those petitions are not worth the digital media they are written on. I dont see how it will help the legalization issue, if they are all high as a kite(which is extremely unlikely) then they sack the goverment, whos running the country then, the Conservatives*!!no thanks, i'd prefer drugs to remain illegal in a hypocritically governed country

*Conservatives would make cannabis a class B if they ever return to power, Labour only changed there mind on the class C because of the Daily Mail and the so called unbias Conservative stance seemed more popular than theirs since the (not so)recent scientific breakthroughs.

Instead you should write directly to your MP who can be found at:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_4018047

This is the only way to get the little people heard!

[Twiglet]

They used to test prison officers in some prisons, but rumour has it they had to stop because there were too many positives
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n14334854
Prison officers are opposing plans to test them for alcohol use. A system for testing officers' blood, urine or breath is to be introduced "as soon as possible", according to the Prison Service.
Those found to be over the drink-drive limit would be declared unfit for duty, a spokesman told BBC News Online.
But Prison Officers Association general secretary Brian Acton said such a system should be extended across all public services, including MPs.
The tests would not be random, according to the Prison Service, but any officer suspected of drinking could be tested.
"We are not saying an officer cannot have a pint at lunchtime or a few pints after work," the spokesman told BBC News Online.
Surely you should have a system across the public service including MPs in the House of Commons who take us to war


Brian Acton,
Prison Officers Association


"But they are dealing with dangerous prisoners and we expect them to be alert and professional."
But Mr Acton said current shift patterns meant staff would have to abstain for 17 days at a time.
"We are opposed to it - not because we want prison officers to go on duty drunk but because we want a full and proper occupational system that takes into account why people take to drink," he said.
"If they are going to breathalyse prison officers then surely you should have a system across the public service including MPs in the House of Commons who take us to war."
Call for support
Prison Service director general Phil Wheatley told the Prisons Handbook all staff should remain under the limit throughout their shifts "irrespective of the time of day".
The service was also considering introducing a drugs policy for all staff, he added.
It is important the Prison Service does not adopt an 'out the door' policy


Mark Leech
Prisons Handbook editor


Editor Mark Leech said: "Staff whose judgment is impaired through drink or drugs are a danger to themselves and to others inside the prison.
"It is in everyone's interest they are removed from the prison until they are again fit to attend."
But Mr Leech added that sacking staff who failed tests should be "a final and last resort".
"Staff who have a drink or drugs problem must receive the support they need to address their problems.
"It is important the Prison Service does not adopt an 'out the door' policy."
Ethical issue
The Police Advisory Board is considering random drug testing for police officers in England and Wales
It is an ethical issue, according to the Superintendents Association.
And those who have to enforce the law on drugs should be seen to be rooting out misuse within their own ranks.
The association points out that compulsory testing has been successful in other organisations - particularly the Army.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3185362.stm

[augentier]

I find drug testing totally pointless no matter who it's for. Those in power will trick the system just like the average factory worker does..fake piss, cleansing the body beforehand, etc..drug testing is an unreliable method when it's cheated every single day.

[Twiglet]

yeah, I think it would be better to do random aptitude tests.
tests to see your capable of doing your work properly/safely

[Bananas293]

the real issue is one of social engineering. We train the kiddies that it's impossible for a weekend pot-smoker to come in on Monday and have any idea of where he is

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