"Bad" vs "good" trip poll.

[Micutzul]

Originally Posted by vuue

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=56

I thought this was a strange kind of reply until i actually clicked the link . ALL I CAN SAY IS f******ckiiiiiiin ROFL .


Brilliant :

Don't worry , i already quit all substances of abuse . But thanks for worrying

[fnord]

wow alot of forum members arnt wearing any pants!

well anyways im glad to see that grandma isnt the only one that enjoys what shes learns from "bad" trips.

[acolon_5]

SWIM finds that he really learns more from more difficult trips while he might not always enjoy them, they are the most meaningful. He really enjoys the light hearted fun ones too.

Oh and SWIM never wears any pants.

[Micutzul]

Could you get an indecent exposure charge for not wearing pants on the street ? Cause ...too many people seem to enjoy not wearing pants )

[azrael2600]

Swim actually prefers both,, Swim usaully gets something out of both a good and bad trip.

[RaverHippie]

SWIM has never really had a bad trip before. Some have dwelled on negative topics, or become almost too intense to handle, but these have also been the most enjoyable trips. So if bad trips = intense trips, then those are the favorite. The light, happy nice, trips almost seem repetitive by nature.

[x cynic x]

Swim has gotten The Fear before only to realize that he convinced himself of total nonsense. But if he actually did learn something, it still would have been more enjoyable without the fraudulent terror. He learns more from thinking deeply than driving himself nuts with panic.

[~lostgurl~]

I gather that those of you talking about tripping in first person are talking about tripping on substances that are legal in every country because if not this would be self incrimination and worthy of infractions. Don't forget to SWIM when talking about use of substances that are illegal in ANY country!

[Pino]

Trips are never totally good or bad. He has his bad moments, but then he learns from it. And sometimes they aren't really bad in the sense of fear, but they are more desolate in their feel. Or just dark or have a pending feel of doom. Well many different things can happen to a monkey. But all those depths make the feeling, when one reaches the top, better.

[cashflow]

I liek the ones where satan comes and tries to kill me, only problem is that i dont get em , don't even get nightmares anymore, guess i have nothing else to learn? lol.

Originally Posted by Micutzul

Could you get an indecent exposure charge for not wearing pants on the street ? Cause ...too many people seem to enjoy not wearing pants )

Remember were all at the computer, and the biggest online marketplace is ... well, i'm not gonna get into that

[Pino]

Originally Posted by cashflow

I liek the ones where satan comes and tries to kill me, only problem is that i dont get em , don't even get nightmares anymore, guess i have nothing else to learn? lol.

Don't self-incriminate. The above was about your hypothetical friend. Can be the fun of adventure? Swim has dreams about wild animals, which try to catch and eat him.

[AntiAimer]

There are no bad trips, just different experiences.

[chemlove]

SWIM finds that being in a relaxed state is the best, and sometimes a crazy hardcore trip makes it really hard for my friend to truly enjoy himself.

[ThirdEyeFloond]

Looking back SWIM would say both. His most lifechanging trips have been quite difficult trips, some might even call them bad. Getting beat over the head with things you know but don't want to hear for 8 hours straight in hell is hard enough as it is, the aftermath of integrating this into daily life afterwards and making changes where found appropriate no matter how much of a struggle it may seem is even harder though luckily not as intense. This is the only lasting solution SWIM has found to avoid the same issues turning up again on the next trip and the next...
On the other hand pure uncomplicated euphoria in drooling ecstasy is hard not to love too.
The rare mystical experiences seem to be a mix of both atleast in SWIMs case. Struggle with the ego over nothing and everything, followed by pure ecstasy once it finally gives in and dies another spiritual death.

[samadhiVOID]

Great post ThirdEyeFloond. The discussions of "well if you liked it, it's not 'bad'" is semantic word play, no substance. Contentment breeds stasis. Recognition of suffering sparks transcendence. To bear all suffering that arises creates God/Man. SWIM thinks psychedelics are an excellent opportunity to inhabit the perspective/space of fractured lower aspects of ourselves. Sometimes it requires beating SWIM's head with a brick but be is all the better for it. Reintegration is never without pain/pleasure.