"Bad" vs "good" trip poll.

[fnord]

not that ive ever tripped before but they seam to teach alot more then a fun happy trip.anyone else agree?



oops i meant to click im not wearing any pants,is there a way to edit my poll?

[augentier]

if someone enjoys what others might consider a "bad" trip, then to that person it is a "good" trip. some people are crazy enough to enjoy seeing demonic faces in the mirror but can't handle dark memories/real life events coming to life..but the latter can definitely be appreciated.

SWIM had a nervous breakdown the last time she did shrooms (almost 2 years ago) and while it sucked..it was a wake up call to some personal issues in her life. hard to say whether SWIM would prefer this type of bad trip..sometimes she is open to the idea, though, because she knows she has demons she needs to face sooner or later.

good thread..i'm interested to see what everyone else has to say about this.

[keats]

If you enjoy/prefer the trip it isn't really a bad one, by definition. What makes a "bad trip" is entirely subjective and personal, and if you considered it a valuable/enjoyable experience it wasn't a bad trip. In other words: no.

[enquirewithin]

SWIM used to enjoy darker trips, but really bad ones are ones in which you face personal demons and can't cope with at the time are not much fun.

So again: no.

[tank_girl]

Swim had 2 hits of liquid acid and wound up remembering past traumas that really messed with her head, but as the trip progressed she wound up working through negative thoughts and bad memories and became stronger and happier because of it. swims worst trip wound up being one of her best just by hanging out with a tree.

[TMM]

Originally Posted by fnord

they seam to teach you alot more then a fun happy trip.

Well, educational 'good' trips aren't usually fun or happy.

Anyone else despise the terms 'good trip' and 'bad trip'?

[Rio Fantastic]

Swim finds that bad trips have stronger visuals and the hallucinatory value is a lot stronger, since crap tends to come up out of nowhere...but Swim couldn't handle a bad trip that is mostly mental.

[fnord]

Originally Posted by TMM

Well, educational 'good' trips aren't usually fun or happy.

Anyone else despise the terms 'good trip' and 'bad trip'?

yes i do also but felt it would be the best thread title seeing as the majority of people use the term ¨bad trip¨


wow alot of other peple here dont wear pants,maybe its something common among dférs?
common

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by fnord

they seam to teach you alot more then a fun happy trip.anyone else agree?

I agree, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go looking for them or try to have one.

[BackToBasics]

Budgies only had a few 'bad' trips, mostly on Mushrooms, and his last one didnt teach him nothing because he was too scared shitless. That was because of bad setting and being a impulsive trip though.

Generally, Budgie thinks that 'bad' trips are the ones that you learn most from though. It depends how strong a dose he's done, whether he enjoys 'bad' trips or not.

[Triple7]

The bad and fearful ones makes one think a lot. Swim thinks they do good, because they are the ones that (also) teaches love.

[Strykar]

Jeez, what about a bad trip would interest/teach you?
A serious dose of a hallucinogen + a bad trip + lack of hospitalization could lean towards schizophrenia.
How much are you going to learn from that?

Interesting topic, SWIM is curious to see what people have to say about this.

[El Calico Loco]

Swim's first bad trip was the one that cured him.

These days, he only gets bad trips when cannabis is somehow involved and there's some other problem - dehydration, overstimulation, etc. He can deal with these if he's tripping "sober", but tripping while high makes it difficult.


ECL

[fnord]

Originally Posted by Strykar

Jeez, what about a bad trip would interest/teach you?
A serious dose of a hallucinogen + a bad trip + lack of hospitalization could lean towards schizophrenia.
How much are you going to learn from that?

Interesting topic, SWIM is curious to see what people have to say about this.

that would only happen if swiy had a preexisting psych problem.¨bad trips¨ dont need hospitilization,that would probly just make it worse!

[Kakkoii]

Swim has had his fair share of bad trips. But Swim comes out with a brighter sight on life from them.

One of Swim's worst, Was when Swim smoked 2 grams of weed while on Wellbutrin and Dexedrine.

Swim began to get dissy and went to sit down and watch tv. Swim's vision started to get a bit tunneld, and felt very weak. Swim seemed to be tripping in and out of existance for blinks at a time. Swim's heart rate went to a scary speed, and Swim thought he was going to die, Which rose it even more.

Swim then headed to the bathroom to try to clear his head, Swim blinked, And then noticed he was looking up from the floor of his bathroom, with his head 2 inch's from hitting the tub. Swim had realised he blacked out and fell to the ground while blacked out, and started having a panic attack. Swim quickly made some fatty foods to help get it out of his system, and drank lots of liquids and tried to walk around as much as possible.

A few hours later Swim came out of it with a brighter outlook on life.

[Strykar]

Originally Posted by fnord

that would only happen if swiy had a preexisting psych problem.¨bad trips¨ dont need hospitilization,that would probly just make it worse!

Yes, and not everyone is aware of a pre-existing mild condition that could be made worse with a bad trip.

[Lunar Loops]

Originally Posted by Strykar

Yes, and not everyone is aware of a pre-existing mild condition that could be made worse with a bad trip.

A very good point. Underlying and dormant psychological problems are by their very nature unseen (in the majority of cases) until something triggers them. SWIS knows of people, who in retrospect should never have dabbled, who have 'learnt' a very harsh lesson. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

For what it's worth the yak told me that he rarely wears pants and that the angle of his dangle leans towards enjoying most forms of cerebral manipulation.......but he says it's all about the setting. When poking around in those dark and cobwebbed corners he prefers a solitary stall in the shed and some fresh mown hay on which to rest his active head.

[fnord]

i should of clarified that im not against,plesent trips at all! i was only trying to say that the darker more unpleasing ones teach you more about life and yourself.

[Lehendakari]

The bad trip itself cannot be enjoyable by definition, but the aftermath of a bad trip can be good, relieving and educational. It's like what didn't kill me made me stronger kind of feeling.

SWIM has had moments of bad tripping in a trip, but he always locks unpleasant thoughts-memories by repeating himself that everything is ok and alway has a few xanax handy, and the only fact to have them in your pocket helps blocking bad feelings.

He's never really had a bad trip because of this, but I can see how it could be something you can learn of.

[Micutzul]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

The bad trip itself cannot be enjoyable by definition, but the aftermath of a bad trip can be good, relieving and educational. It's like what didn't kill me made me stronger kind of feeling.

YEAH ..THIS IS IT !! This is what used to make a bad trip good for me . Especially if it was a bad trip because i did a much too high dose in an unappropriate setting and i knew that i was doing this but i thought " Hey , i can take it , i'm a psychonaut , once i'm tripping , everything is in MY CONTROL ! "

Sometimes it even worked , i managed to make an otherwise 100% " sure to be a bad trip " situation into a relatively good trip. But sometimes i would just have a bad trip and afterwards i'd feel like this was an experience that made me improve , kind of like playing World of Warcraft or any RPG : that feeling of leveling up . You know : " yeaah ...lvl 65 , now i can get that Armageddon skill i always wanted ...shiit ..level 30 Plate Mail , this has Fire resistance + 89 ... sooo wicked , i'm gonna kick the crap out of those fire elementals on Luna Bay 63 " ( LOL )

[meep]

Originally Posted by Micutzul

kind of like playing World of Warcraft or any RPG : that feeling of leveling up . You know : " yeaah ...lvl 65 , now i can get that Armageddon skill i always wanted ...shiit ..level 30 Plate Mail , this has Fire resistance + 89 ... sooo wicked , i'm gonna kick the crap out of those fire elementals on Luna Bay 63 " ( LOL )

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[sweetsweetmary]

hmm, no bad trip for SWIM please. SWIM has had a few, a seizure on mushrooms, bugs on acid, just shit you never want to see. Never understood why these things happened when they did, but enjoys good trips

[Micutzul]

Originally Posted by vuue

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I thought this was a strange kind of reply until i actually clicked the link . ALL I CAN SAY IS f******ckiiiiiiin ROFL .


Brilliant :

Don't worry , i already quit all substances of abuse . But thanks for worrying

[fnord]

wow alot of forum members arnt wearing any pants!

well anyways im glad to see that grandma isnt the only one that enjoys what shes learns from "bad" trips.

[acolon_5]

SWIM finds that he really learns more from more difficult trips while he might not always enjoy them, they are the most meaningful. He really enjoys the light hearted fun ones too.

Oh and SWIM never wears any pants.