SWIM thinks he got the shaft

[gib]

SWIM just ordered 28g of amanita caps. At first, he ate ~3g, and felt nothing. Then he did 6g, and still felt nothing. Has he been shafted? Has anyone else experienced difficulty getting high, or even a slight buzz, from amanitas?

[JDreaming]

Yes- SWIM had extreme difficulty getting any beneficial effects during the period in which he experimented with Amanita Muscarias. He eventually concluded they were useless to his personal explorations and gave up on them, throwing some remaining supply in the trash. SWIM started from low doses of about 2 or 3 grams and eventually went as high as 20 grams... on 20 grams of it, SWIM felt a bit sick and "wrong", but still was not appreciably "tripping". SWIM even tried a second supplier to test for bad supply. It never worked under any circumstances. SWIM suspects the problem most likely is neither SWIY nor his supplier... but simply the substance. It seems to work for some people, but not for most.

Amanita Muscaria is a highly un-recommended "hallucinogen".

[Bajeda]

Has swiy considered cooking the mushrooms before ingestion? Or making a soup perhaps?

My panda doesn't have a great deal of experience with Amanitas, but he has experienced a decent range of effects from using them and enjoyed what he has seen so far from this substance. The most enjoyable times were when he mixed them with Ramen noodles or some other hot liquid, but the taste gets unbearable towards the end. He was definitely tripping with just under 10 grams in a soup, not to mention that he didn't quite finish everything as the taste started getting bad.

[snapper]

Another good thing to do is, after baking them, pulverize them into powder before ingestion. The actives absorb more quickly. Still, SWIM has not enjoyed these, though they are active, they are very unpredictable and have unpleasant side effects.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by snapper

Another good thing to do is, after baking them, pulverize them into powder before ingestion. The actives absorb more quickly. Still, SWIM has not enjoyed these, though they are active, they are very unpredictable and have unpleasant side effects.

I've read from a number of sources (of varying legitimacy and relevance) that the red skin is the only part you really need for psychoactive effects and the rest of the mushroom is superfluous. Sexual Harassment Panda never tested this though.

Sexual Harassment Panda would definitely advise caution with use, especially when estimating the dose. Sexual Harassment Panda had little to no ill effects with the doses he took, yet others seemed to experience more negative physical reactions. Amanitas are not to be underestimated.

[gib]

SWIM didn't get shafted. SWIM took 20 g over two hours ago, and he's definitely feeling something. It's not like psylocybin mushrooms, but anamitas are trippy in its own way. The first signs SWIM felt were a feeling of lightness and dizziness. Those feelings are now hitting hard and there are a few other symptoms such as a dreamy feeling about SWIM's surroundings and a inability to do SWIM's work (he's working on a website and programming it is becoming harder and harder. The code is making less and less sense.) SWIM's thoughts are racing a little more, and he gets fixated on almost anything he looks at. Unfortunately, music isn't as emotionally stimulating. It sounds rather bland, like it's nothing but a bunch of noises put together. Other than some mild nausea, SWIM would say this trip feels pretty relaxing. In fact, SWIM feels like taking a nap.

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[Shampoo]

First, SWIY most likely did not get "shafted". Faking Amanitas would be more work than its worth. 2-3 grams however does not even touch the threshold dose of amanitas in most cases. Safe dosing can begin above 6 grams, and up to 12 grams of potent amanitas before effects are overwhelming in any sense. One of the primary complications that usually comes up when people embark on a muscarine "trip", is a lack of awareness. A similarity between amanitas and psylocibes is, as has been stated, unfounded, but more importantly, a major player in the set and setting in which amanita ingestion regularly occurs.
A primary facet of set is anticipation, and has been cited by Metzner, Leary, and Earleywine, as a leading role in the outcome of psychoactive experiences. For instance, (Kirk, Doty, & De Wit, 1998) administered synthetic THC to two groups, the first aware of its origin, the other only aware of its classification as an anti-emetic. The first group widely reported euphoria as an inherent property of the chemical (which it is not), and the second group reported consistently less than positive experiences, focusing primarily on the chemical's tendency to exacerbate anxiety.
How does this apply to SWIY getting the shaft? Perhaps the experience they were anticipating could not be facilitated by the chemistry present in amanitas, but required a more friendly substance (i.e. psilocybin). The states of consciousness primarily associated with amanita intoxication are better facilitated perhaps by a dream-like-stupor like that of a shamanic practitioner in the heat of sonic-driving, or of an exhausted psychonaut, embarking on a journey of rest and intoxicated dreaming...

[Nagognog2]

The levels of psychoactives in Amanita Muscaria (A. Pantherina) vary wildy from location to location - even right next to each other.

Bongo never bought any off the web, but has hunted them quite successfully in the N.E. USA. Some did nothing. Some were quite strong. This is why I urge caution.

If you run into the spirit of Muchimoor someday, you'll never have any doubt these are for real. You'll either be most reverantial towards them - or scared out of your wits.

[timleary263]

eating them never worked for me but tea ALWAYS did but watch out it tastes pretty awful