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Old 25-07-2007, 23:09
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Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

Now, I can understand where someone with an addicition feels they need to totally clean up. I can also understand someone who chooses not to do a particular substance for whatever reason. I can also understand (and approve of) making use of a substance an occasional BREAK from one's existence vs. BECOMING the whole of one's existence.

But what about the person who says. "This is how I experience the world. There are subsatances that would alter my perception of the world; however, I have no desire or curiousity to EVER alter my consciousness in any way, shape, or form." How are these people wired? Is it just that they have a "socially acceptable" hang-up? Or do they buy the propaganda wholsale and are thus too scared? How could a person hear about the plethora of psychoactive substances available, and not be tempted to do ONE of them ONCE? Neither I or subject have any clue as to what makes them tick.

Not that I'm saying drugs are my subject's sole escape: such things as challenging music and books definitely effect him, for instance. But how can one not be curious?

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Old 25-07-2007, 23:21
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

Not all people are very curious or have much desire to experience things outside of the particular (socialogical/psychological/etc) box they exist within.
For many it is not a question of curiosity but of resisting temptation or avoiding "bad" or "evil" substances. Many feel rather victorious that they have never tried any such substance and view their absolute adherance to their current limited experiencial paradigm a high virtue.
Personally I never knew how people could make judgment calls without direct experience about such matters. Must be why I didn't last long in the religion of my youth: I saw no virtue in ignorance.
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Old 25-07-2007, 23:38
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

People buy into propaganda, unfortunately.

People believe that if you take LSD, you'll "see shit" and that's it. Also that it'll "fuck up your brain". A lot of people are just happy with alcohol, and don't even consider it an altered state of consciousness because it's so commonplace. It's amazing how some people can drink themselves stupid and then look down upon people who use other drugs.
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

The only "anti-drug" people I do not consider absolute hypocrites are Christian Scientists who actually do not use *any* drugs.
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

a friend of mine "hates all drugs" and only the other day drunk himself into unconciousness with a mixture of vodka and absinthe... he was out of action for the best part of two days after... and yet he would never dream of touching a joint and looks down on swim if he were to roll one around him

fucking hypocrites
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

Most people are curious, but a lot never act upon it because of 1. they believe all the negative hype and can't get past that stigma; 2. it's illegal and they really are paranoid (I know some people like this); 3. religious restrictions; 4. fear/uncertainty

SWIM is glad that she was someone who fell under these categories, and quickly said to hell with all of them.
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

There are genuinely those people who have absolutely no interest in in taking anything (including alcohol). SWIS knows many such people (admittedly most of them above the age of fifty, but not all). Whilst SWIS finds it hard to understand their lack of curiosity, he admires them in some respects as they seem perfectly happy and content with their lot.

Like others, it is the many hypocrites that SWIS has no time for at all. Those who are prepared to drink themselves stupid (well actually they're already there before they touch a drop) and then condemn others as "druggie scum". Nothing of all the violence that results in every town up and down this land every weekend (and during the week) due to binge drinking. That's just high spirits (if you'll pardon the pun).
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Re: Pepole who don't do ANYTHING, ever

There are plenty of close minded and/or hypocritical non drug users, but there are reasonable ones at all. SWIM's mother, for instance, is entirely accepting of the drug use of anyone else, as long as they aren't harming others, but just isn't interested herself. She's the wildest and most interesting person SWIM's met, and has done all sorts of crazy stuff he'd never dream of doing, but she'd just rather not try drugs. SWIM's met others like this as well, and while he doesn't agree or even neccesarily understand their choice he respects it, as long as they respect his.
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