Can this be LSA?

[jaysson]

SWIF ordered some LSA blotters from a somewhat untrustworthy supplier. The site sold them as 1mg blotters, but the text on the blotter says "LSA 100mcg". Whatever the real amount of active substances in the blotter, 1.5-2 of them is a good trip with a duration of 15-20 hours. The come-up period is 4-5 hours, though, and that makes SWIM wonder whether the blotters could be LSA at all?

SWIM has had some experience with seeds containing LSA, and they have only taken an hour or two to come up. He has tried the blotters too, but had taken some Bromo-Dragonfly the day before, and thus could not be very specific about the effects. The blotters did not have any noticeable taste, and the somewhat subtle effects were noticed after 4-5 hours. SWIM's friends have enjoyed these blotter many times, but their real identity is still somewhat unclear.

Of course I do not expect to have a definitive answer based on this information, but I hope that at least some clarification could be had. Is pure LSA even available, or made easily? Has anyone here tried it? And most importantly, is there any reason why it would take 4-5 hours to have any effects?

[Abrad]

Definetely not LSA with an onset and duration like that. Any further speculation is worthless imho.

[Nagognog2]

I'll bet Bongo knows the source. And the liklihood that it was bromo-dragonfly is quite high.

[ODB]

How were the OEV's when it kicked in?

[candy_kid]

lsa is active in the 2-5mg range so two 1mg blotters would make sense, however, can 1mg even fit on a blotter unless these blotters are thick/big? It seems more likely in this respect that this is 100mcgs of something else. Also, 15 hours is definitely way too long for an lsa trip unless SWIY is counting after effects? I agree with nagnog that its likely bromo dragonfly considering dose and duration... probably a better buy than lsa would have been anyway

[Cirkeln 6]

Originally Posted by candy_kid

lsa is active in the 2-5mg range so two 1mg blotters would make sense, however, can 1mg even fit on a blotter unless these blotters are thick/big? It seems more likely in this respect that this is 100mcgs of something else. Also, 15 hours is definitely way too long for an lsa trip unless SWIY is counting after effects? I agree with nagnog that its likely bromo dragonfly considering dose and duration... probably a better buy than lsa would have been anyway

1 mg is no problem at all. But it all comes down to what material you are trying to make blotters with.

5 mg of DOI was possible but it was pushing the envelope. So Yes you can easaly fit 1 mg of substance in a standard blotter.

OnT: I have to agree with the conclusion that Bromo-DragonFLY is the likely suspect. LSA are availibal comersialy but it doesn't have any real reseblence with LSD in terms of intoxication profile.

But it could also be DOI. It is known to kick very slowly in some users.

However Bromo-DragonFLY has been very inexpensive latly so thats the safest bet.

[ODB]

4-5 hours is a long come up. I thought 100-250μg R-(-)-bromo-DragonFLY took 1hr to start, at 2hrs you are frying and around 3-4 hour point is the peak.

[Nagognog2]

The Bromo-DFly is similar to DOB in launch from some reports - namely 3ish hours. Unfortunately (in the name of science at least) we don't have enough reliable reports on on the Bromo-DFly yet to be certain.

We are certain that two kids died from it after dipping their fingers into raw powder. Which could indicate it was taking a long time to make it's presence known, and the impatience of the victims.

But all remains speculation without chemical testing.

[chrisn]

Someone's experiences with morning glory seeds never really got going until 3+ hours in, peaking around 4-5. Not pure LSA though..