Very social and very euphoric?

[sockchemy]

Swim is looking for an RC that rates very high in these two categories. Swim wants it to be very euphoric and very social. What is the best RC for SWIM?

[Broshious]

SWIM finds Methylone to be very euphoric and fairly pro-social.

[Rush]

AMT, AET and 4-fmp are very euphoric & social

methylone is ok too, but has a very rough comedown in swim's opinion

[nanobrain]

2c-t-21 and 2c-b-fly

[ironmics]

I would vote for Propylhexadine, not an RC, but very easy to obtain

[Zaprenz]

Lets not forget the very essence of research chemicals, if that is what were talking about - often little is known about them, their effects and more importantly side effects.

Making a conscious decision to ingest a chemical, having read and understood all the information available and accepting possible risks is one thing.

Ingesting a research chemical with the expectation that it will produce social and euphoric properties and not considering the risks is what causes problems.

SWIMs advice would be read up and try and understand these things. SWIM appologises if this post seems rather dull and cautious but in terms of harm minimisation people shouldn't have expectations of a wonder drug. Lets face it we all want a chemical that will improve our mood and make us more social - the reality is somewhat different especially with research chemicals.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Cautious but rather unhelpful commentary

[NeonCortex]

4-FMP is definitely very social and very euphoric. It would be a good choice if this is what you want. Better than methylone ISO.

[psilocybonaut]

I would recommend 2C-I HCl at around 16-20mg. It's the only hallucinogen I've done that actually aided me in social situations, because the "mindfuck" aspect of it is nearly non-existent, so it's just colorful visuals, lots of laughing, music enhancement, and a pretty mild trip (compared to like 2C-T-7 or 2C-E which are extremely intense).

Of course, now, MDMA is my drug of choice for social situations.

[Nagognog2]

2-CI can be an extremely intense psychedelic for some people. Not advised as a first time in a social setting.

[candy_kid]

^^ agreed, also, if anything 5mgs is more of a social dose ISO for 2c-i and even then, for a first time avoid the social situations. Adding alcohol increases the euphoria and sociability of 2c-i quite a bit in swim and his friend's experience

methylone is by far the most social and warm RC swim has tried

[nanobrain]

nothing of 2C-I character facilitated sociability unless one counts the cloud-eye-skyscraper thing UFO denizens amongst the socialites. if anything in the 2C class, 2C-B for warm fuzzies all the way to psychedelic soup.

[Toltec]

Swim told me she thinks that 1 or 2 mg of DOM is very euphoric and social. Any more then that could be a bit to much.
Swit can't wait to verify this.
Cheers

[jabs]

SWIM said that 2C-B is great for social and euphoric.

[NeonCortex]

The Neo Doves might be worth a shot, but SWINC doesn't know what they contain.

SWINC thinks the OP is not really looking for a psychedelic. Also, SWINC knows there are compounds that fit the "social and euphoric" category well without significant psychedelic action, only they are not readily available at the moment.

[dr ACE]

the most "social and euphoric" experiences swim has had with rcs would be 2c-t-21, 4ho-det

[Perception Addict]

A low dose of DOM was all it took for swim to want to hide from everyone around her, she found social interaction terrifying.

Some of swim's friends have spoken highly of 2c-e for this purpose, but again, this is a pretty intense experience and probably isn't the best choice for a first time experience while in a very social setting. Swim's SO likened the body high to an almost MDMA-esque euphoria, though not to such a great degree.

[Nagognog2]

VERY low doses of 5-MeO-MiPT can be very sociable. A little more and all bets are off. And what that low dose is varies from monkey to monkey.

[sockchemy]

SWIM appreciates all of the responses. This is a pretty good thread. SWIM would really like to hear any SWIY's opinions on 2c-b as far as social and euphoric.

[syntelman]

If you want very social and very euphoric stimulants is probably a much better bet. IMO psychedelics really have a tendency to make communication very hard (or atleast very hard to understand). And the euphoria can in a matter of seconds turn into fear/anxiety etc. Personally I htink there are better drugs to take in a large social setting..

In SWIM's experience 2C-B is more of a happy drug than say mushrooms or LSD, but not euphoric per se in the sense that it always induces euphoria. It may, it may not. It's all in the set & setting as with (almost) all psychedelics. But it is a great drug no matter what so someone should really try it if given the opportunity.