Combinations - Ketamine & Salvia divinorum

[schwing]

Anyone know any stories of someone mixing the two together?

I'd guess that it's an interesting and frightening experience.

[icantremembermylegs]

what is salvia?

[schwing]

Originally Posted by icantremembermylegs

what is salvia?

http://www.drugs-forum.com/salvia-divinorum.html

You can also check the Erowid pages for more info.

I've read that salvia is useful if you ever feel that time's flying by too quickly in your life and you want it to stop for about 30 minutes....... and also if you want to explore the netherworlds at the same time

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by schwing

Anyone know any stories of someone mixing the two together?

I'd guess that it's an interesting and frightening experience.

Interesting is not the word. SWIM has never tried that-- it could be bizarre, terrifying or a blackout!

[schwing]

I should know a good story in a week or two. Stay tuned!

[icantremembermylegs]

Schwing, i'd like to sincerely thank you. Salvia is the most amazing thing SWIM has ever read about and will be trying it asap! he will get back to you with his esperiences

This has to be SWIMs best discovery since k

[schwing]

Just keep in mind that there have been reports of users not getting much effects from Sally the first few times that they tried it. Also, for the love of God, if you're lucky enough to break through, don't fight the (potentially scary) effects!

Enjoy!

[icantremembermylegs]

SWIM was up all night reading all about it (and i mean all night.. went to bed at 8:30am!) he will be careful and persistent and let you know how it goes

[ljfe]

SWIM just tried salvia 2 days ago, and at first he didn't know what hit him. SWIM thought he didn't like it. After smoking it several times he learned to enjoy Sally.
My friend tells me "Salvia is mother nature's way of showing man that she is more powerful than anyone can concieve."

[icantremembermylegs]

SWIM fell in love with a girl named sally

[icantremembermylegs]

SWIM will be trying Salvia + Ketamine this weekend.

He will be in touch

[Coconut]

Looking forward to hearing of SWIY's experience.

[keats]

SWIM has actually attempted this once, and would never recommend it to anyone else. SWIM was too fucked up on ketamine to think straight (IMed a moderate amount for the first time) and decided to try some 5x extract, which was a light dose for him. Goodbye reality, it was like being in a nitrous trip for 20 minutes. For SWIM nitrous has always felt sort of like falling/losing all contact with reality, and when SWIM took that (fairly small) toke of salvia out of a bubbler he was GONE for 10+ minutes and out of it for longer than that.

Too intense for comfort in every way, not recommended to anyone and SWIM would STRONGLY caution those without extensive dissococative experience, or those prone to "bad trips".

[schwing]

Keats, a few questions:

1) is SWIY used to being sucked into k-hole and enjoy it (My guess would be "yes," but just checking)? Also, has SWIY had bad trips on k?
2) how soon after the administration of k did SWIY use salvia?

The reason I'm asking is that I would've thought a low-med doses of k kicking in after the initial hit of salvia would actually make the whole thing more relaxing...

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by schwing

The reason I'm asking is that I would've thought a low-med doses of k kicking in after the initial hit of salvia would actually make the whole thing more relaxing...

I think it would be much more difficult to take the Ketamine after smoking the Salvia, not to mention dangerous if you are very disassociated.

This combination doesn't sound especially appetizing, but if anyone were to try it, it feels as though taking Ketamine beforehand would make more sense.

[schwing]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

I think it would be much more difficult to take the Ketamine after smoking the Salvia, not to mention dangerous if you are very disassociated.

Sorry, shoud've been more clear in the last post... SWIM meant taking low-moderate dose of k first (probably by insuff. or eating) and getting a hit of salvia before the full effect of k comes in... so probably within 5-15 minutes depending on the route of k intake.

I did say that I'll know a good story "in a week or two" but that'll have to wait a bit after certain recent events

[icantremembermylegs]

today SWIM insufflated about 250mg k (half in each nostril) then smoked quarter of a gram of organic 60x salvia through bong

with SWIMs favorite music playing especially loud, SWIM was pulled back into bed like he was in a super strong sand storm and drifted away

he felt like his soul left his body and was drifting around in the air being pushed around by the music, gently with the gentle music and more eraticly as the music got heavier

2 hours+ later SWIM came back into his body and arose as the music stopped and has felt content and sedated since.


best time of SWIMs life nothing on this earth could ever compair. SWIM would choose this over winning the lottery twice!

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Interesting, thanks for sharing, but would like more details in the future. It's not very descriptive for a 2 hour exper...

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by icantremembermylegs

today SWIM insufflated about 250mg k (half in each nostril) then smoked quarter of a gram of organic 60x salvia through bong

with SWIMs favorite music playing especially loud, SWIM was pulled back into bed like he was in a super strong sand storm and drifted away

he felt like his soul left his body and was drifting around in the air being pushed around by the music, gently with the gentle music and more eraticly as the music got heavier

2 hours+ later SWIM came back into his body and arose as the music stopped and has felt content and sedated since.


best time of SWIMs life nothing on this earth could ever compair. SWIM would choose this over winning the lottery twice!

Interesting... but a quarter gram of 60x Salvia? Swiy is seriously wasting alot of money if that is how much he usually uses to achieve a breakthrough. Snuggles the kitty has used 1/10 of a gram of 15x and flown into hyperspace.

Swiy might want to consider switching up his dosing and trying smaller amounts. I'm guessing he will find he could have saved alot of money.

[schwing]

Two hours?? Holy cow!

...and 60x salvia? LOL.

Someone that I have no contact with anymore told me once that his favorite activity while on K was listening to relaxing music, but that he hated any sort of music while on salvia so I was curious as to what the effect of mixing the two would be.

Did SWIY not feel that salvia totally overpowered K?

[icantremembermylegs]

"Did SWIY not feel that salvia totally overpowered K?"

it did at first, but that was the beauty of it, SWIM loves music with salvia, makes the trip a whole lot more enjoyable and predictable, without music SWIM could end up anywhere, but with the music swim is somehow 'grounded'

the initial trip with sally lasted maybe half an hour (unsure) and then it felt like the silky floating fair-ground-ride feel of sally flew away like a paper bag in the wind and swim was left with what must have been the k, a much more gentle and relaxing ride, (SWIM has never had K with music, only silence, which is sometimes depressing) however swim did get up maybe half way though and have some more salvia

to SWIM, music and salvia combined create a kind of fairground ride feel, like all the fun of the best ride you could imagine, then times it by a million! with no unpleasant gforce or sickness

the k made the salvia more intense because it took away the convious mind which would always be saying this isnt real.. this must have made it last longer too

SWIM will be doing the same again later today and will let you know how it goes

[schwing]

Yeah, the reason that he hates music with salvia is that he feels that the music keeps pulling him back to Earth while Sally wants to pull him elsewhere

With K though, he said that background music is good because at low doses he gets a nice, floaty feeling while blasting away at high doses the music becomes too irrelevant to be distracting.

Anyway, good to hear that SWIY's enjoyed the mix.

^^^
^^^

Oh, one more thing...

How experienced is SWIY with K? Would you consider 250mg to be standard low-med. dosage (my aforementioned ex-acquaintance knew people that had such high tolerance that they could insuff. 400-500mg and not get into K-hole... wtf) or a firmly moderate-strong dosage?

[icantremembermylegs]

the 250 was about twice as much as SWIM would usually call a big dose, but he wanted it to be something special (never planned to but he poured out a bit too much and couldnt be bothered to put some back )
plus he had had k a couple times the previous week so there might have been a little bit of tolerance there, SWIM seems to build a k tolerance quite quickly

SWIM is very tempted to try the combo again without the music and see where he gets to, however he will be alone again and doesnt want to get up and move around knocking stuff over and potentially hurting himself

does SWIY move about much on salvia? SWIM used to but hasnt had sally without music for a while and isnt sure if he could keep still

SWIM had another rather large amount of K and then even more Salvia and tried to listen to music on his ipod, this was a rather insane trip, things happening which he couldn’t control, and things like adjusting his headphone took about 10 minutes lol he quickly got sick of the headphones and took them out and decided to get up and walk about, SWIM felt like he could feel the earth spinning and held on to the walls to stay up, he then experiences extremely intense OEVs, his first real OEVs that he knew were OEVs if you know what i mean.. everything was distorted and looked like one of those magic pictures, the pattern on his bed and carpet swirling and changing shapes etc he had fun exploring his room in this altered perspective
again about 2 hours later SWIM became a little more aware of his surroundings before drifting into a half awake half asleep half trip all crazy state for the next hour and a half

SWIM always returns from salvia land feeling a bit disappointed that out of the infinite possibilities and infinite universes he is stuck in this one which is poor at the best of times.. swim hopes that when he dies it will be a lot like his previous trip, floating around in an infinite abyss

[schwing]

Originally Posted by icantremembermylegs

SWIM had another rather large amount of K and then even more Salvia and tried to listen to music on his ipod, this was a rather insane trip, things happening which he couldn’t control, and things like adjusting his headphone took about 10 minutes lol he quickly got sick of the headphones and took them out and decided to get up and walk about

Yeah, that's why Jack the Rapper puppy hates music with salvia. He feels time distortion that seriously clashes with the steady time flow of music (I guess because music is a temporally linear thing). And it seems to take an infinite amount of patience and time to change music or put something else on. Jack would rather be completely still, lying down on bed and staring up at the ceilling, lol.

As for salvia dosage, Jack says that 1.5-2/10th of 10x is enough to do the job.

[icantremembermylegs]

SWIM will try less tomorrow and see how it goes, both these times he had already insuffed too much k and his motor skills were some-what lacking, causing him to pour in more than he had intended

SWIM just checked and found the bowl still half full (optimist for once )
no matter how hard he tries, he still cant remember putting the bong away but he must have


SWIM loves Sally

[phatass]

SWIM tried K and salvia once and will not do it again... too strange waaaaaay too strange....