Learn to smoke meth, by someone who knows what they are talking about.

[vantranist]

Like i said SWIM deosnt weight it.

So i cant tell you how many hits he gets from 50 mg... hoever .5 for "sorta high" is way off, ur shit must be cut to shit.

a gram of average shit around here should get you pretty high 4-5 times. to a regular but not everyday user, mabye 3 tines.

If u wanna take longer hits pull less air in at once, close ur lips so onyl a little cna go in if you want, swim can easily take 20 second hits (not recomended or required)

You will def. know if ur shits burning, you will feel little particles hit you tong and it will be much more harsh and almost unpleasent, SWIM almost vomited after smoking burned shit (only happend once)

SWIM burnt it because he was smokinout of a light bulb, they have very thin glass, and the lighter was a piece of shit and broke, the flame was about 4 inches high! And STILL i just had to move the flame about 3-4 inches away, keep in mind thats a thin light bulb with a 4 inch flame.

If ur using a pookie (meth pipe) its pretty hard to burn, and its not all gonna burn at once... burnt shit still got SWIM high btw, if u detect thats its buring (described above) just put it down, let it cool off for a few sec, and repeat again with the flame lower.

Now that you atleast have it down somewha, try method described in the starting post of this thread... heat it till it melts in 1 big puddle, let it cool down for 20-40 sec, and hit as normal besides gently tilt the pipe side to side, just to move the puddle slightly (increased surface area = bigger hits)

But im pretty confident that the rest of the problems relys on ur shit .5 is a lot for "sorta high"

PS you dont need to weight for the pipe to start filling... once it starts making a good ammount of smoke just take ur hit. but ur way is fine.

but TRUST me you will know if ur heating it too much... Even when i burn shit it still gets me high and like i said, just because you burn 1 hit doesnt mean all the shit in there at the time is wasted, just reduce heat, some will obvously be lost but not 2 much.

[wynter]

I dont know why, when I do it slowly, for around 20 secs or so, NOTHING comes out, but when I do it fast (Fill my lungs completely by about 7 secs) smoke comes out like a normal cigarette.

I find it's a problem when i ry to do it very slow.. its as if the smoke gets lost somewhere, once I did 50mg, all at once, very slowly.. and NOTHING came out.. it really pisses me..

is there a technique when doing it slow? do I isolate my sucking and close my lips tight around the stem, or use my throat to breathe it in slowly?

[vantranist]

If nothing comes it its usually because its absoribing... thats somtimes a good thing (because its in there so long)


NOW if its not getting you high thats another story.

[wynter]

so its a good thing that no smoke comes out at all? I dont taste any bitter taste anymore, i used to burn it.. now i do it slowly and lower the flame. it tastes like just nothing, but no smoke whatsoever.. I also FEEL NOTHING when no smoke comes out, where as when i DO blow smoke out, I feel somewhat "higher" after each hit even just by a little bit even..

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by wynter

so its a good thing that no smoke comes out at all? I dont taste any bitter taste anymore, i used to burn it.. now i do it slowly and lower the flame. it tastes like just nothing, but no smoke whatsoever.. I also FEEL NOTHING when no smoke comes out, where as when i DO blow smoke out, I feel somewhat "higher" after each hit even just by a little bit even..

Also watch how fast or slow SWIY is sucking/inhaling from the pipe.

It just takes practice though, really...

[manda]

Whoever said that the big bags run out, too, is surely right.
They just cost more and the come-downs worse...

By the way, it isn't necessary to hold meth hits in to get high. It can do the job w/out your added assistance.
My concern is if the shit was extremely potent, and someone held it in for too long...uh oh. 911.

[mad_dog]

Swim uses tin foil and a rolled up magazine paper tube. Pipes sound like a hassel.

[manda]

It's easier to get a bigger hit w/glass.

[mad_dog]

Indeed. Also SWIM told me that if you smoke ice with tin foil you need to jack your lighter DOWN to stop the stuff getting to hot to qucikly.

It's a drug best saved for Holidays in Cambodia IMHO

[manda]

You don't want to burn thru the tin foil while there's still a bunch of dope on it, either, so switch pieces of tin foil or change where you're burning the dope on the foil often. Don't throw a lot on there at once, simply because if your tinfoil does get burnt thru you only lose a little as opposed to a lot.

[mad_dog]

Originally Posted by manda

You don't want to burn thru the tin foil while there's still a bunch of dope on it, either, so switch pieces of tin foil or change where you're burning the dope on the foil often. Don't throw a lot on there at once, simply because if your tinfoil does get burnt thru you only lose a little as opposed to a lot.

SWIM lives in south east asia and there you get a cheap lighter; jack the flame up really high and then cover most of the lighter's hole with correction fluid or straw from a local style brush... This produces a tiny flame ideal for smokin'.... Probably getting over complex again now Tin foil tiny flame a monkey could do it !

[manda]

I've seen people burn thru foil and waste dope. It's good that you are being very light with your flame, the less flame you use the less dope you burn up in waste. On the flip side, if you apply a lot of flame to foil or a pipe, the shit starts smoking hard right away, and hence a big hit is born. I know that's not the right way to do it, but that method does work when you don't want to wait those extra seconds-
I have also heard that smoking on foil is extremely bad for you... have you heard that?

[mad_dog]

Originally Posted by manda

I have also heard that smoking on foil is extremely bad for you... have you heard that?

No I hadn't. Swim is only an occasional user these days 6 x per year but living in Asia and doing drugs and having lots of pipes and bongs around isn't a good idea (in Thailand at least) as the police would lock you up for just having a dirty meth pipe. Next time I holiday in Cambodia I'll give the pipe a hit and report back. Cambodia by the way has some of the best cheap pure drugs in the world in SWIM's opinion. The paedophile prolem is blown way out of proportion by the Western media. You can walk into a pharmacy and come out with a morphine and ice merchants sell their wares 24/7. Nice place for a holiday but you'd loose yer fecking mind if you lived there.

[mad_dog]

Originally Posted by manda

I have also heard that smoking on foil is extremely bad for you... have you heard that?

No I hadn't. Swim is only an occasional user these days 6 x per year but living in Asia and doing drugs and having lots of pipes and bongs around isn't a good idea (in Thailand at least) as the police would lock you up for just having a dirty meth pipe. Next time I holiday in Cambodia I'll give the pipe a hit and report back. Cambodia by the way has some of the best cheap pure drugs in the world in SWIM's opinion. The paedophile problem is blown way out of proportion by the Western media. You can walk into a pharmacy and come out with a morphine and ice merchants sell their wares 24/7. Nice place for a holiday but you'd loose yer fecking mind if you lived there.

[manda]

When I got busted for posession years ago, they got me for dirty paraphenalia, no dope.

[manda]

You know how f-ing stupid I felt and looked? How pissed I was at the law.... GRRRRR.