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Old 14-07-2007, 22:57
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Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Ecstasy isn't the same for swim as it is for other people,the empathogenic euphoria most everyone he knows feel swim doesn't really get.It makes him sort of uncomfortable and anxious.Swim does enjoy being around others on it to an extent but they worry swim for some unknown reasons almost like he wonders if they are really his friend?He seems to talk very loudly for some reason when he does it.

Not saying swim doesn't enjoy MDMA it is just like he is enjoying a different substance than MDMA.It is almost like some strange psychedellic to swim.At first swim thought it was fake MDMA but his friends were on it and had the exact same pillsas swim told him it was definitely not.Those people would know as they do it much more than swim.Also this has happened everytime swim has dones it and he knows it couldn't have been fake all the time.Swim knows certain substances effect different people in different most substances atleast have one effect that everyone feels the sameway.For swim its nothing like that with ecstasy.He would like to feel the effects it is known for for once though.

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Old 14-07-2007, 23:08
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Does SWIY take any prescription medications? Or would there be any reason for SWIY to have a tolerance to any other stimulant (amphetamine, cocaine, etc.)? SWIM takes an SSRI and Adderall every day. SWIM has found that because of the tolerance to amphetamine, and possibly the addition of the SSRI, MDMA has almost no effect on SWIM.
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Old 14-07-2007, 23:21
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

It'd be more helpful to know more specifically how it affects your friend. You said he feels uncomfortable and anxious, but does he still get a mood lift and euphoria? If so, then that seems perfectly normal to me. Some people, especially incredibly socially awkward ones like one of my labmonkeys who has tried MDMA, are never going to be warm and fuzzy and trusting no matter what they put into themselves. Aforementioned monkey can empathise with your friend, and would advise him to just roll with the high and enjoy himself, and remind himself that he's probably being paranoid, and the people around him are probably not waiting to stab him in the back, especially if they're on MDMA themselves.
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Swim would have no reasonto be tolerant to any stimulants.Swim takes no SSRI's either.Swim didn't really get a mood lift,its hard to explain how swims mood felt,it definitely changed though one could not call it a "mood lift" it couldn't really be called a mood down though.He did expereince something that could be called euphoria though not the kind of euphoria swim likes the best.

This is why swim is not a heavy ecstasy user.He enjoys it at times but never goes looking for it and only gets it if he comes across it.
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Old 14-07-2007, 23:59
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

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Swim would have no reasonto be tolerant to any stimulants.Swim takes no SSRI's either.Swim didn't really get a mood lift,its hard to explain how swims mood felt,it definitely changed though one could not call it a "mood lift" it couldn't really be called a mood down though.He did expereince something that could be called euphoria though not the kind of euphoria swim likes the best.

This is why swim is not a heavy ecstasy user.He enjoys it at times but never goes looking for it and only gets it if he comes across it.
Might have to chalk it up to a biological mystery then. Despite my second cousin's chiwawa's ridiculously low body weight, he has a fairly high tolerance to most drugs, but none to alcohol. He gets almost no effects from weed except minor delerium and obfuscation of clear thought. He has to take a lot to get a small buzz and even then it doesn't last very long. Sometimes these things defy logic. Again... just roll with it
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Swim thinks this is definitely the opposite of tolreance because it is stronger to him than most his friends,its just different for him.Swim isn't sure if he would like it better how the majority feels it or maybe he likes it better as he feels it.Not that its swims favorite by any means,just something interesting to do on occasion.
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Maybe swim is having a hard time letting go of reality. Is the setting/environment in his favorite place? Outside is very nice!
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Don't feel bad man, every drug Smurf has taken is always differen't then everyone around him and he always has to take more to get effects. He can take the same amount as everyone else around him of X, while there all rolling HARD he is just so so, still functioning normal.(Even takeing more does not help) Really irritates him, but not much he can do as he has found out. He gets mad since most people can't even comperhend nor understand why such happens. Even he can't understand it, pretty depressing. He has learned to just to go with what he does get and appreciate every minute.
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Does SWIY take opiates or similar during or on the same day of ecstasy intake?
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

Swim has taken them with ecstasy before but he's done it on days when the strongest drug he's taken is chocolate.Maybe this is swims bodies way of saying ecstasy is bad for him somehow?
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Re: Why doesn't ecstasy effect swim like it does others?

swim disagrees with previous comment ecstasy itself is not bad (well in the sense its illegal for a reason but anyway..) its how swiys mind is playing on that existing fear in swims opinion. initially swim was rolling euphorically every time swim did it but more recently became aware (as tolerance built even slightly) that swim was not feeling as energized and was becoming aware of people around swim and thougth they were all either ignoring swim (people meant to be swims friend) or backstabbing swim. swim felt as thought hed prefer to just sit and absorb everything rather than further making a fool of himself and thus became very figity. swim however found a soloution that 9/10 works, in advance before rolling make conversation with as many people as swiy can and leave it on a positive note, then make sure once rolling swiy reminds themselves that everything is ok and no one has a problem with you, everyones just having a good time and if it all goes wrong swiy can sort it out another time.
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