Mr. Rogers was an evil, evil man.

[Bajeda]

You're not special and Mr Rogers was an evil man



Rupert Murdoch and Fox News can burn in hell. I didn't think they could go any lower, but I was wrong.

[Nacumen]

Work hard your whole life for "the cause" and you will be special.

UNDER NO OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU AS A PERSON WORTH ANYTHING.

End Transmission.

[beentheredonethatagain]

you are missing the point. and a good point at that.
children are not taking responsibility for their future, they are being told that they are special for just taking up space, why do parents allow young johnnie to expect something for nothing, entitlements and handouts, this will not produce quality adults, only people dependant on government welfare.
what is so wrong with making your own way and not thinking the world owes you a thing. Liberal ideology is the cause for this touchy feely mentality, lets make the playing field level kinda of crap. Learn to not be so fragile .

Bajeda your going to hate the Fox News Channel now matter what they air, and I would venture to say that CBS News is your mainstay.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

you are missing the point. and a good point at that.

No I didn't. The author of the study that inspired this wretched little Fox News segment retracted his claims in regards to Mr. Rogers contributing to the supposedly narcissistic tendencies of this generation's youth.

There is no valid point in this at all. Little children need love and caring, and just as importantly, need to know that they are loved and cared for. Telling a little kid he is special isn't going to make him feel he deserves everything he could possibly desire. If anything it will raise his self-esteem and spur him on to be more confident and ambitious in attempting to achieve his desires.

I hope you don't have kids, because if you do they must be sad little things.

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

children are not taking responsibility for their future, they are being told that they are special for just taking up space, why do parents allow young johnnie to expect something for nothing, entitlements and handouts, this will not produce quality adults, only people dependant on government welfare.

And this is Mr. Roger's fault? Are you fucking kidding me? Mr. Rogers is single handedly responsible for the narcissism and self-centeredness of an entire generation? If anything we have less psychotic murderers on the street today because some years back a bunch of little kids around America who were neglected by their parents managed to get a little bit of the love and attention they so sorely needed for proper emotional development from television through Mr. Rogers.

I think if there is any impediment to helping kids develop into well functioning and humanistic adults today its the other 99% of shit they see on TV, not the one program that actually accomplished something good with its broadcast.

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

what is so wrong with making your own way and not thinking the world owes you a thing. Liberal ideology is the cause for this touchy feely mentality, lets make the playing field level kinda of crap. Learn to not be so fragile .

This isn't about being self-centered! This is about all the problems in the US being blamed on Mr. Rogers, who was practically a saint and who touched the lives of kids across the nation.

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

Bajeda your going to hate the Fox News Channel now matter what they air, and I would venture to say that CBS News is your mainstay.

If they actually aired news with the pretext of trying to be objective, or even made an attempt at proper journalism with solid ethical foundations, I'd be very impressed and would change my opinion a bit. So far they haven't budged.

I don't watch CBS news. Actually I don't watch the news on television at all, because its all mind-numbing, fear mongering, sound byte ridden pandering crap. The internet and magazines and newspapers (Financial Times, the Economist, Wall St. Journal) make much better resources, not to mention the advantages of getting your news from a wide variety of sources.

Judging from your comment about "liberal ideology" making people all touch-feeley, I'd say you need to get your head out of your ass and stop watching Fox News for a bit so you can say hello to the real world.

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Well done.

[Nagognog2]

It's called CHILDHOOD. Or would you prefer taking the culture back to the days of Dickens. No more Mr. Rogers. Send Johnney out to work as a boot-black, or a chimney-sweep?

[beentheredonethatagain]

no chimney sweeping is dirty work, they should stick to newspaper routes.
Nagognog2 do you subscribe to the non competion style sports for chittlens?

[toe]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

no chimney sweeping is dirty work, they should stick to newspaper routes.

I am going to go out on a limb and assume you never had a paper route.

(That, or my Sarcas-o-Meter needs to be taken in to the shop.)

[bcubed]

Geez, talk about attacking a man (of the cloth, no less) when he's no longer around to defend himself...

Fred Rogers clearly felt he was acting upon his religous calling by doing "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood," but he never beat anyone about the head with it. Growing up in Pittsburgh PA, I've run into quite a few persons who had dealings with him, and I've always heard what a wonderful, grounded person he was. As far as pedophile rumors, they're pretty much de rigeur for any adult in childrens' television, and--absent corroborating evidence--I'd pay it no heed.

Actually, he's been the answer to the "If you could have dinner with any one person in history..." question. I figure that he might be the most able to rectify my problems with a benevolent God vs. all of the shitty things that happen on earth.

And as for Mr. Limbaugh, I'm waiting for a formal retraction of his "just one less junkie" comments about Jerry Garcia's death before I grant him any measure of sympathy. It's become a cliche' how--whenever a moralizing hypocrite gets busted--they pull out the ol' "poor, pentinent sinner" schtik...case in point: Bill Bennet being outed as a degenerate gambler (hell yeah, SWIM gambles, but at least he has the skill and discipline to make blackjack and poker PAY for him...)

[x cynic x]

The reality of it all is that Mr. Roger was just trying to make a living by starring on some show. He was paid to read his script, it's not like he got to express his true personality in that situation. Barney isn't a jolly dinosaur, its a guy trying to make a living. Whoever wrote the scripts for that show could be the culprit here, but it's not like they were doing anything to harm our youth. Inspiring kids to have faith in themselves is considered evil?, that is just a statement of a news channel in desperate need for good material.

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yep briliant

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by x cynic x

The reality of it all is that Mr. Roger was just trying to make a living by starring on some show. He was paid to read his script, it's not like he got to express his true personality in that situation.

You mean you are assuming that was the reality of it all. He actually wrote, and rewrote, and meticulously rewrote again, each script for each show he did. He also wrote all the songs for it.

There were a few really great articles about him by people who knew him (including a pretty good one in Esquire) but they don't seem to be on the net anymore. Try the below links for an idea of who he was, though its not quite as good as what I was looking for.

Fred Rogers' testimony before the US Senate

http://www.salon.com/people/bc/1999/08/10/rogers/

Listen to the Fred Rogers interview with Don Swaim, 1987

Biography of Fred Rogers at the "Rotten" Library (I know its an odd site to have it, but its actually not bad)

[Nagognog2]

Do you often jump to conclusions?

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Do you often jump to conclusions?

I wasn't jumping to that conclusion. It was just a question, just trying to get a sense of your position in general .

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Mhmm I'm sure most these conservatives subscribe to the "Spare the rod spoil the child"philosophy and "Children should be seen not heard."I mean to them women aren't complete human beings and apparently children aren't either.

[tayo]

He's dead. That is Fox News, they took someone's opinion and turned it into something more "important" than it is.

I like this one...

[Powder_Reality]

I think there may be some truth to the study they did, but nowhere near to the extent that Fox News is stating.

Children need to feel special and feel loved, that's all there is to it. If you really want to screw up a child, then just ignore them and make them feel like a worthless piece of crap while they're growing up (which is essentially what this news report is saying we should do ).

However, if you continue to coddle the child all the way into their teenage years, of course they'll end up developing an egotistic personality. Children need to be loved and feel special, but as they grow up they need to learn about the real world and how to survive in it (ex. working hard, not expecting things to just be given to you, etc).

I guess what I'm essentially trying to say is that: no, Mr. Rogers did not "ruin" an entire generation by telling them that they were special. Period. I don't know how anybody could say otherwise and keep a straight face.

[Nagognog2]

FOXNews willl now come up with how Mr. Rogers was training a Gorrila Army.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

A gorilla army that trains Al Queda in the use of rocket propelled grenades knowing Foxn news.

[tayo]

Ronnie Colman is underneath the gorilla suit...



I think some of the reporters were laughing at the story's existence.

[Nagognog2]

I find discussing FOXNews to be about as intellectual as analyizing speeches by Adolf Hitler.

Wanted by position? Now you got it. Period.

[beentheredonethatagain]

I havent even turnned on a television or talk radio in over two years, but as you can tell I used to , yes Fox yes Limbaugh. For the last two years I ve been trying to get my head out of my ass, I would agree with that.
The real world is only what you make of your little pile of shit. today I focus on rearing my son and playing the blues period. pissing off Moderators just comes natural

p.s. I have an eight year old little boy , whom I raise alone . His mother died .. and yet he is a very smart and happy go lucky child, whos had to expeirence more pain than a child should have to. Mr. Rogers is a staple of his television viewing.

[Yukio Mishima]

What I don't understand is how a 'study' could isolate the Mr. Rogers TV show as a definitive factor in determining a social phenomenon. It's amazing, quite honestly. Did the researcher analyze the performance of children who watched the show vs. those who did not over the courses of their lives? Or, more likely, did he make a passing remark and have it turned into 'Study proves Mr. Rogers destroyed America!!!' by the idiotbox pundits?

Of course, Mr. Rogers was wrong. There are billions of people on this planet and most of them are interchangable. It is a miniscule percentage of earthlings who are even candidates for not being interchangable with their fellows ants. Did I say 'ants'? My sincerest apologies. I meant 'men.'

That said, it's a noble lie. Mr. Rogers was a decent man, IMO.

[Nagognog2]

NEXT UP: Thr live-TV flogging and hanging of Captain Kangaroo! Followed by the Drano-Enema of Mr. Greenjeans! Bring the kids!

Only on FOXNews. Narrated by Lush Rimjob.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Nagognog2 that's clever. your wit is sharp.
Not to change subjects, curious though When Limbaugh was in trouble for the oxycontins, what was your take on that situation, just wondering

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Nags take on was probably the same as most of our takes on it.What a hypocritical dickhead!I remember him saying something like all drug users should be put in jail for life or executed.These pricks would put people in jail forever for merely smoking cannabis.Sad that such ignorant,evil,and cold people can have positions in government here.These people are common murderers and thieves!More twisted than most serial killers.What nuclear war would do this planet and to people is more horrific than even any serial killer would think of wanting.And these people claim they are the "good guys".

[keats]

My take is rush limbaugh is a gigantic fucking hypocrite, I'd like to hear you or anyone else say otherwise and why not.